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EMLER:The reason why we recommended that they be dedicable is because if <br />they€re going to be open to public and available for the County to request dedication of then they <br />need to be constructed to our dedicable standards. <br />YUEN:I think, we need a, I agree that it should be constructed to dedicable <br />standards. There isn€t-. To construct an Ag 1-acre lot road to non-dedicable standards would <br />require a variance. <br />CARR:Okay, may I ask you a question? <br />YUEN:Sure. <br />CARR:Based on the topography and the grades that we€re dealing with on this <br />hillside if we were to design dedicable standard roadways does that meet the conditions of the <br />inclineoftheCountydedicableroadway? <br />YUEN:That€sa-.Howsteepistheroad?Howsteepisyourroadgoingtobe? <br />WHEELOCK:Theaveragegradeisabout12%.Thereareportionsthatexceed17%,one <br />area in particular. Can I ask a question? At what point in time would we request a variance to <br />not build to dedicable standards? We have no problem leaving it open for public use but the <br />concept here is not to maximize the width of the roadway or to create an urban experience. <br />We€d like to go with more of a rural feeling up in the mauka end. We€ve also had a number of <br />our neighbors to the mauka side express concern about the urban feeling. In fact they€re going to <br />express their own feelings about putting a through road through their property at some point in <br />time as well. Our goal is not to go that route if possible. <br />YUEN:The-, well the variance will be requested during subdivision process if you <br />were to request a variance. On the question of grades, the subdivision code currently has a <br />provision of maximum grades that says it can be altered under unusual circumstances. One of <br />the amendments I€m proposing to the subdivision code is to delete that because its more been <br />honored in the breech rather than in being followed over the years. There have certainly, there <br />have been roads dedicated to the County in excess of 17%. The top portion of Hinalani being a <br />good example. There€s also a DPW; there€s a DPW policy manual that was done in the mid-70€s <br />that has generally been the guideline. I believe the maximum grade in that policy manual is <br />18%. So, and that€s the best answer I can give you as far as what is the maximum grade that can <br />be constructed to dedicable standards. It depends on the classification of the road. This would <br />be classified as a minor street and 17% is potentially dedicable. <br />GRAHAM:Go ahead Mr. Carr. <br />CARR:Thank you Director Yuen and it€s only because a lot of times conditions <br />are imposed with dedicable standards without being cognizant of the grades. And so we end up <br />accepting the conditions and then when we€re going through the process to effectuate and <br />complete the project we€re getting hung up because now they won€t dedicate, they won€t accept <br />dedication of the roadways. And I just (inaudible) a community on Maui. We can€t dedicate the <br />EXHIBIT E <br />17 <br /> <br />