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Butthat water line is you know just a little white pvc and I don€t, don€t even know if there€s <br />water in it anymore. But it was in question and I just wanted to mention. <br />GRAHAM:All right thank you. <br />STANBRO:What that was. One of the things that in looking at this whole layout in <br />the General Plan and seeing how the General Plan lays out that that lands up to the top of there€s <br />you€re planning on having that rural and that the lands above that remaining Ag. I€d just like <br />you to know when you€re looking at that if you€re not familiar with the area that every farm that <br />continues up from there, the Otas, the Kunitake€s, myself, the Bertrams to an extent, Loraine <br />Peters to an extent. Those properties are all well productive farms. I know a couple of those <br />people their entire income is off their farm. In fact Mako Ota if you ever got green onions at <br />KTA and who knows what else he has a truck farm right there in (inaudible) soils. And the <br />Hawaiians did a very very good job of moving the rocks to open up areas for planting. My entire <br />property,the2longskinnyparcelsthatareontheedgeofLanihaunumber1ahupuaa.I€vegot <br />huge huge mango trees, kukui trees, hao trees and very very productive deep deep soil extending <br />into Liliuokalani Trust Lands and south of me. The coffee is wild and it€s huge and its <br />everywhere. So the idea that these are not that productive Ag is really silly. I mean the soil is <br />incredible there. And so when you€re looking at these other maps that are the soil county maps <br />kind of take them with a grain of salt because the minute you move, pick up a rock and move it <br />there€s tons of soil underneath and the rock actually helps hold the moisture in. So rocks are not <br />bad things and the Hawaiians knew that and they used them really in clever ways. On my <br />property I have a lot of graves I have a lot of raised bedding areas. I have home sites. I have a <br />lot of sites like what is in this in the manual here. And I€m preserving them. They€ll be <br />preserved forever. I would like to see more lands around preserved in that way. And actually <br />talking to the developer of this property, how they plan on doing their acre and a half is selling <br />them with as little disturbance as possible other than putting the roads in which is a breath of <br />fresh air. Because if you happen to have a site on your acre plus land hopefully you€ll keep it <br />and you€ll preserve it. And so if, you know if at all I€d love for it to stay 5 acres. But if we€re <br />looking at developing these lands doing the one plus acre sounds okay to me. But I€d like to see <br />a heavier density at the bottom. I think we have to really look at the availability to that big <br />Crossroad Center. And walking and cycling. You know I think it would be very smart to make <br />that a higher density at the bottom if anything and maybe a lower density at the very top maybe <br />go up to 5 acre parcels at the top and do more density at the bottom. And with a road, the <br />connector road that they have on there that goes over to you know that connects that they€ve put <br />into effect. I have a concern that the Salvation Army site seems to be on the largest <br />archaeological site. And I€m just would like to see them not get into hu hu later on when they go <br />to develop that site because it is, it seems to be the most involved site. The footpath, the, I think <br />I covered everything that I wanted to but I also have a question for the developer of where that, <br />the description is of the sites that they do plan to keep. And I would like to suggest keeping <br />more than just 1 or 2 sites if that can be done since we€re dealing with 1 plus acre parcels. <br />GRAHAM:We can hold that question and ask that ourselves to the direct when he <br />comes back up. Thank you Ms. Stanbro. Do we have any questions from the Commissioners? <br />Yes Commissioner Iwashita? <br />EXHIBIT E <br />24 <br /> <br />