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GRAHAM:Oh okay. Ms. Stanbro you want to, since I€m not following directly on the <br />map say which map it is you€re referring to. <br />STANBRO:The tax key map. The one that I was saying was so old. <br />GRAHAM:Right. <br />STANBRO:That€s probably the best one is for showing the extent of the true ahupuaas <br />going on up to Mamalahoa. <br />GRAHAM:Okay thank you. <br />STANBRO:And like I said it€s quite old. The property is directly above the <br />development. Those were broken up, they€re not the big long slots that appear on the map. Mr. <br />Norman€sistheonethat€stothefarnorthandthat€sonly8acres.Thereshouldbealineacross <br />that then you go 8 acres more and put a line across there and then go up about 10 acres and put a <br />line across there. So that€s all broken up. I don€t know about the other 2 parcels that are north. I <br />do know there€s been a lot of breaking up going on in there though. So if you look at the little <br />line that goes up from the middle of the property I€m assuming that that may be an old trail that <br />goes up and then eventually gets up to the Onizuka Store, which would come to the middle of the <br />property we€re looking at. <br />GRAHAM:As far as how your testimony reflects on our conditions you were quite <br />clear that you didn€t feel it was important to put a condition carrying a stub out is that correct? <br />STANBRO:That€s right. <br />GRAHAM:Okay. <br />STANBRO:I think that what the one that they have what they have there with the cul- <br />de-sac? <br />GRAHAM:Mm hm. <br />STANBRO:I think that is, would be, would suffice considering that they€re giving the <br />road across, they are giving the County road going across the upper fifth of the property where it <br />connects across there. You know that could connect to another mauka-makai like could connect <br />to Keopu. That makes more sense. Also when you€re asking about the road that has the two, the <br />two-walled road that has the waterline that was mentioned? That€s going north/south? I believe <br />that waterline, it€s a white plastic, very small waterline. I believe that actually went to Uncle <br />John€s old shack. And if you look at the tax map there€s a little square sitting in the middle of <br />Clarence Rapoza€s property just at the far corner, north corner at the top there? You see that <br />little square? I believe that was the water source for him. There€s a white plastic pipe and it <br />goes along the road and I believe it went to that spot. I think that was that, that water source for <br />him. But I don€t think it€s Clarence€s house. I think they get their water source in another spot. <br />EXHIBIT E <br />23 <br /> <br />