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in the CDP process in the preliminary educational steps in the facilitated meetings. Members of <br />the Waimea Community Association served on the Steering Committee. I served along with <br />Margaret. And the discussions that took place actually at the instigation of this Commission <br />between the community and Carl Sturges were to bring their plans more into accordance with the <br />goals and values expressed in the CDP. And I commend them for d <br />lot of time on this. And this agreement reflects that; it reflects a lot of those community values. <br />And so with the inclusion of this agreement, we remain in support of this application. <br /> <br />HOUSEL: Thank you very much. Commissioners, do you have any questions? Do <br />you have a question? <br /> <br />GIFFIN: Yes, I do. Thank you. For the third speaker, Victoria Missien, in your <br />written testimony, in Paragraph Î 1, 2, 3 Î 4, I just want to know where you got that information <br />regarding, ÐUnder the terms of Richard SmartÓs estate, a tract of land was provided for Parker <br />SchoolÓs permanent campus near to the Parker Ranch offices and rodeo grounds.Ñ <br /> <br />MISSIEN: That information was (inaudible) -. <br /> <br />HOUSEL: Please use the microphone. <br /> <br />MISSIEN: That information was actually presented to us at a number of <br />neighborhood meetings in the early years by both Parker School and by the Parker Ranch Trust Î <br />in fact, I think you were at a couple of those meetings Î but it was -. <br /> <br />GIFFIN: I donÓt recall the statement, though. <br /> <br />MISSIEN: It was presented as that they did have an alternate campus, which was at <br />their disposal but, as I said, at the time Mr. Sturges explained Î and we understand the financial <br />decision that the cost of, first of all, relocating the campus that they already were using, the <br />facilities to continue using those facilities is obviously cheaper than building new facilities Î so <br />the explanation was that it was too cost-prohibitive to do all of the cost of building an entirely <br />new campus as opposed to what they are now proposing, which is continuing the current campus <br />and then adding, of course, a smaller campus for the rest of their school. <br /> <br />GIFFIN: I understand what you are saying. What I was questioning was where you <br />got the information about Ðunder the terms of Richard SmartÓs estate.Ñ <br /> <br />MISSIEN: ThatÓs what I just said; thatÓs what we were told by school representatives <br />and by representatives of Parker Ranch. ThatÓs where I got that information. We were told it by <br />them. <br /> <br />GIFFIN: Thank you very much. <br /> <br />COTTLE: Mr. Chairman, if I may? The Department has a question f <br /> <br />HOUSEL: Sure. Please go ahead. <br />25 <br /> EXHIBIT A <br /> <br />