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DELA CRUZ: Correct, yeah, so <br /> DEFRANCO: It's tied to workforce. <br /> DELA CRUZ: Yeah, tied to workforce, so, it's in making sure that, you know, if they are—I'll <br /> make an example, like the hotels, if there's an employee commuting from Hilo and they have an <br /> electric vehicle and, well, what type of, will there be a study or data, like you said, of what <br /> requirements of what charging station the establishment should have, whether from this the <br /> Level 2 or the DC charging stations? Will there be some sort of data? <br /> MORIN: Yeah, I, you know, defer Heather to you, but there is nothing that, at the moment, that <br /> dictates or that will influence that that I'm aware of—well, maybe I should take that back and, <br /> Jen, maybe you can chime in on this as well. So the backbone study and then also the survey, <br /> you know, the survey that was done by, is being done by HECO to identify via crowdsourcing, <br /> right, information from EV owners, would-be EV owners, where they would like to see EV <br /> charging infrastructure, that could be insight into that, into that, those requirements. And, so, <br /> yeah, I don't have a direct answer on exactly how this information might influence the, you <br /> know, the type of charging by venue or by host. I will say that cost is going to be a <br /> consideration, and there are also these situations where maybe space is going to also dictate, you <br /> know, what might be placed in there. My hope as a consumer and, you know, resident here and <br /> also an advocate for clean transportation, is that there will be a diversity of, abundance and <br /> diversity of these charging stations. And with the long-range EVs now, right, a lot of these cars <br /> that are coming out, they have 250, 300 range, mile range; people can go from east side to west <br /> side and have, still have a lot of charge, or capacity, when they get home. So being able to <br /> identify a DC fast charger nearby, you know, to top off is probably,just being able to access that <br /> is probably going to be what's needed versus having, you know, very specific requirements by, <br /> you know, by site. And, Jen, feel free to jump in as well, I know you mentioned something <br /> about the analysis that was done and the need for DC fast chargers and Level 2s. Anything <br /> you'd like to add? Jen has been having some trouble getting through for some reason. <br /> KAY: If I can address this really quickly. So the bill as written, and if it's adopted in the Code, <br /> will only be the minimum requirements, so a lot owner, landowner could add more if it was a <br /> benefit to like their workforce, and <br /> MORIN: Exactly. <br /> KAY: so there is no, there is no maximum. This is just what would be minimally required. <br /> VITOUSEK: And again, this is for parking requirements for public areas. This in my opinion <br /> again is not solution to this issue, it's just one step, I mean, they are still going to require to have <br /> charging stations like we would have a gas station somewhere around there where it can <br /> accommodate more people. But having this as one option available to everyone is a good first <br /> step. It's not, not the step, it's not the solution by any means. I think we all know that, but. <br /> 25 <br /> EXHIBIT B <br />