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explain to them, this is from Kona or this is from there. Cause I won’t eat it; but I don’t want to throw it away, either. The more development, coastal development that occurs, ciguatera starts moving. Right now, ulua, I won’t eat it. I don’t care where in Kohala I won’t eat it because it’s a traveler and it eats the smaller fish. So a development like this, because of the density that was initially proposed, will definitely impact that coast and further on up towards North Kohala. So yes, I do support the revocation of this SMA based on that and the fear that ciguatera will start moving up the coast and more of the reef life will be completely wiped out. Coral in that area is gone. I mean, there are no ifs. University of Hawaii did a very good dive in that section there all the way to Kawaihae. And they said you can’t find the coral; it’s just covered with silt. So the more you keep doing stuff like this, the worse it’s going to get. But it moves outward; and the further it moves out, it gets into that current and then it starts moving up the coast. So the impacts are long-termed. So I should hope that you support the Planning Director’s request. Thank you. RHO: Commissioner Woodward. WOODWARD: Yeah, I’d like to ask you a question. Now ciguatera is related to a specific algae bloom that has actually a toxin in it. How is that related to development? ISAACS: You know, scientifically I really don’t know the what for is on that; but we do understand and know that wherever you have development, ciguatera starts blooming after that, obviously from what is put into the soil by development that reaches into the ocean. I’ll give you a prime example. Papa Akau, William Akau, lives in Kawaihae and his family go back for generations in that area. They were fishermen. He eventually became the harbor master for Kawaihae. He told me as soon as they started developing around that area, especially the harbor, he and his family as usual went out fishing, and all of them came down with ciguatera. This is quite a few years ago. Till today his family does not eat fish at all. So it is related to whatever you do to the coast. You know, no one has ever done a study on it. I wish they would. Then perhaps we can stop this bloom and what activates it. But I’m not an expert on that. WOODWARD: If I could follow up. RHO: Follow-up. WOODWARD: My understanding -, and I lived in the Florida Keys for three and half years, and there has obviously been a lot of development, a lot of related damage to the coral reef there; and to my knowledge there has never been a case of ciguatera poisoning in the Florida Keys. Now have there been cases that you are aware of that have been treated in a hospital here in Kona or in Hilo? ISAACS: Definitely. Papa Akau and his whole family were brought down with it. I know people in Kohala whom I fish with, certain kinds of fish they will not touch because they got it from that species -. WOODWARD: Well, exactly, the -. EXHIBIT A 11