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you know, whatever it may be. Oils are picked up by a company called Unitek Solvent Services; <br />we have a contained vessel there, so all lubricants, all that would be going into that vessel. Solid <br />waste, we have a trailer that is – I have the permits and all – that will go into the solid waste <br />plant, but it’s taken to the Pu‘uanahulu landfill where everything is accepted. Tires are picked up <br />by Unitek as well. The batteries are actually recycled; we have an agreement with Daleco in <br />Kona, and we will drop off any of the batteries we produce. So, recycling is big part of Kahua, <br />you know, we’ve, like I said, we’ve been there for 80 years, and big part of it has to do with <br />protecting the lands and, you know, the people that live and work there. So we’re not going to <br />put anything into the ground that we wouldn’t want to have, cause we eat stuff off of there. So <br />we’re not going to put anything into the ground that we don’t want to put back into us. <br />BOWMAN: Thank you. I figured that much. I just have one more question and maybe <br />a comment. As you know, I live in Kohala, and a lot of young people have ATV’s. And in <br />reading your application, I really am impressed with your desire for safety. I hope that in some <br />way, and I’m not sure with your sales, if there are going to be, like if you buy an ATV, do you <br />have to take a safety class? <br />J. RICHARDS: It’s not mandatory. But you see, one of the things a lot of folks are not <br />aware of, almost all of the major companies that sell ATV’s in the Untied States are part of the <br />ATV Safety Institute, and the ATV Safety Institute, part of their agreement is that they, every <br />time a machine is sold, there is free training that comes with that machine. And it’s also <br />retroactive. You see, if someone comes to me with a, you know, we are, Kawasaki is who we <br />work with, but Honda, Yamaha, whatever, as long as I have the VIN off that machine, that <br />machine hasn’t had training off of it before, I file the paperwork with ASI and they will pay, the <br />company will pay for the training to take place on the Ranch. And so it’s, it’s all there. The <br />problem is no one in Hawai‘i has ever done it before. And we finally, it took awhile to get the <br />instructor status and get all the land use and the tax structure sorted out, but we have it now, so <br />that there is a good, clean layout. And the other thing with families, the ASI, the ATV Safety <br />Institute is very flexible and trying to get as many young people through the course as possible, <br />because frankly that’s what’s going to save the industry is keeping people safe and letting them <br />know how to ride these things safely and, you know, basically keeping people from getting hurt. <br />BOWMAN: Thank you. And I hope our young people can use it. I have some names <br />for you. <br />J. RICHARDS: Well, I also would say the, all kidding aside, too, is the young people are <br />important, but you will be surprised how many people of older status don’t have never actually <br />had somebody teach them to ride it, and you’ll be amazed how much you can eliminate a lot of <br />issues by having everybody that you can find go through it. <br />BOWMAN: Thank you. <br />WOODWARD: Any other questions? Commissioner Ogata. <br />OGATA: I have a question. I know that, well, it sounds like there’s a lot of <br />emphasis placed on the physical safety of the riders. How about the safety of the environment? <br />Is there any training for that part? <br />EXHIBIT B <br />4 <br /> <br />