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GIFFIN:Mr. Torigoe? <br />TORIGOE:If you want to follow the same procedure that Mr.Vitousek is <br />going through, that is to offer them as experts and offer their qualifications, then <br />Mr.Vitousek will have the opportunity to dispute that, you know, that could occur. <br />ROY:That might take awhile, Mr. Torigoe. <br />TORIGOE:That might, that might. <br />ROY:That might take awhile because I would offer that opportunity to <br />him. <br />TORIGOE:And thatÓs why I think one of the reasons why administrative <br />hearings do not follow strict rules of evidence is because itÓs <br />a chance to efficiently put on the record what is relevant. <br />ROY:If we could try to make sure that the balance is level, thatÓs my <br />concern, for the record. <br />GIFFIN:If I understood you correctly, Mikahala, and please correct me if <br />IÓm wrong, youÓre saying that, then, any other witnesses, say, for those that he may be <br />presenting should not be granted the expert status but those that you are should be? <br />ROY:No. ItÓs when I am qualifying that expert in the field of the field at <br />hand what, be it what it may, expert in the opinions related to this property in every way. <br />Expert meaning if he is an expert in the field of architecture, then I am going to ask if <br />thatÓs his connection to his being an expert with relation to this property. In other words, <br />my experts, our experts would be related to this property; and that has everything to do <br />with the subjects that you are going to be considering. You need to know as much about <br />this property, and every public arena that you have is your chance to do that from day one <br />here. <br />GIFFIN:So if I understand what youÓre saying, youÓre not objecting, then, <br />to what Mr. Vitousek is requesting. ItÓs just that you want to be able to question whether <br />or not the designation of expert is valid? <br />ROY:I am willing to accept for cross-examination the witness. B <br />term of Ðexpert,Ñ maybe I do hold in a very special category, I do, we do, with regard to <br />any of these perspectives with the relation to the sacred site. <br />GIFFIN:Mr. Torigoe? <br />TORIGOE:Well, I think, you know, obviously, we do want to keep a level <br />playing field. And, so, and I think generally speaking in an administrative hearing, we <br />8 <br /> <br />