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the Alii Highway, you know, Hokuli`a Bypass. But otherwise, if you are coming in on the <br /> primary access road, trying to negotiate to turn left, that becomes very problematic. <br /> KANUHA: Have you guys been in discussion with DOT? <br /> FUKE: Not yet, because we only found that belatedly that the jurisdiction now fell under the <br /> State. But we have nevertheless made contact with Engineering Partners in Hilo to begin that <br /> discussion with the State Department of Transportation. We didn't want to take it any further, <br /> pending like at least like what's happening before the Commission and the County Council. <br /> KANUHA: Thank you. <br /> FUKE: Sure. <br /> DEFRANCO: Thank you. Are there any other questions? Yes. <br /> KNOWLES: Thank you, Mr. Fuke. I had a question also about the DOT concerns, particularly <br /> with the secondary access on the southern easement, which sounds like you are talking about. <br /> What would be an alternative to that? Have you and the owners considered anything that you <br /> might put before DOT? <br /> FUKE: Well, I think, you know, like that's why we are hiring this, the applicant is going to hire <br /> Engineering Partners to have the discussion with DOT. But my non-engineering perspective, if <br /> DOT denies the second access, I think that it'll make it very difficult for vehicles trying to make <br /> a left turn coming out of the subdivision; what you are going to have to do is probably turn right <br /> and then eventually find a way, you know, to negotiate a left turn. We would hopefully be able <br /> to prevail upon that, that, you know, our scheme as developed with the County Department of <br /> Public Works, Engineering, is probably the best for this site. <br /> KNOWLES: Okay, so there is no alternative kind of idea or possibility at this point— <br /> FUKE: <br /> ointFUKE: At this point in time, no, I think between the developer and his representative, you <br /> know, and DPW Engineering, they kind of like racked their brains trying to figure out how best, <br /> you know, both from the public standpoint, you know, getting into the, you know, and the future <br /> lot owners perspective, you know, how to get in and out of their property safely, you know, I <br /> think they racked their brains, and then that's the best solution they came up with. And we are <br /> hoping we can convince the State. <br /> KNOWLES: Great. I just had one more question, Chair, if you don't mind. Can youI'm <br /> South Kohala, so I'm not so familiar with the intersection but how far is the parcel from the <br /> local businesses in the community? Is, you know, it's kind of walkable or what, what is the <br /> thinking there? <br /> FUKE: Walkable? Yes. <br /> KNOWLES: Less than half, less than half a mile? <br /> 9 <br /> EXHIBIT E <br />