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2022-07-21 Leeward Exh H (Items 5&6 Hawaii One1 PL-REZ-2022-000014 & PL-SMA-2022-000012)
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2022-07-21 Leeward Exh H (Items 5&6 Hawaii One1 PL-REZ-2022-000014 & PL-SMA-2022-000012)
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VIOTUSEK: Yeah. <br /> VAN BERGEN: so is there cultu-yes, to my knowledge there have been absolutely no <br /> cultural practices since <br /> KNOWLES: Well, we've, we've heard extensive testimony over the last several meetings that <br /> people do view it as culturally significant in the community and are practicing, and that the wall <br /> in particular has religious significance to people. <br /> VAN BERGEN: The wall is on parcel 1, and we can talk about that <br /> KNOWLES: The area. <br /> VAN BERGEN: Yeah. <br /> VITOUSEK: 2, yeah. <br /> VAN BERGEN: I'm not saying that there shouldn't be or there couldn't be, but the property has <br /> not been used, I mean before you grubbed it, you couldn't walk into it. It took almost two and a <br /> half months just to clear the burial areas because you had to do by hand with chainsaws. So if <br /> there was any practice going on, I don't know how they even access the property, because <br /> ROY [from the audience]: Heinous, heinous [inaudible] <br /> VITOUSEK: Order. Sorry <br /> ROY: What you are testifying is wrongdoing, and the reason why <br /> VITOUSEK: Auntie, we can't, we have to maintain order for this. If you, if you'd like a <br /> chance to respond, I'll give you a chance to respond, but for now you have to maintain order <br /> ROY: Yes, but it is, it is not[Inaudible]I will, I will, because it is not in order <br /> VITOUSEK: I will, I will give you an opportunity to respond as a descendent— <br /> ROY: <br /> escendentROY: This is, this is the examination that I was well expecting to the degree <br /> VITOUSEK: Mahalo, mahalo. I will give you a chance to respond, but for now we'll let the <br /> applicant— <br /> VAN <br /> pplicantVAN BERGEN: If I can just, if I can just clarify. I'm not saying there shouldn't be or there <br /> couldn't be; I'm just saying there has been no observance by the owners <br /> VITOUSEK: That you know of. <br /> 16 <br /> EXHIBIT G <br />
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