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off-load people without affecting the highways and the public streets. So that€s the kind of <br />control we would have at plan approval. <br />Now if you wanted to do agricultural tourism that went beyond this level of permitted use, for <br />example, if you wanted to have a larger facility, or if you wanted to have special events like <br />weddings, then you would still have to go in the special permit route. <br />So we€re, this is our draft bill. We€re looking for, I know that, I thought that there were some <br />people who were going to come and testify. They may have not been able to stay for the end of <br />this. We have some written comments. None of the square footage limits or the dollar limits, or <br />the number of visitors are written in stone. All of these are numbered that we, we tried to <br />balance the various interests and pick numbers, but that can be changed. What we€re looking for <br />at this stage is input, discussion, critique of the bill, before we take it up to the County Council <br />which will make final action on this. <br />SPRINGER:Is there any discussion? Commissioner Siracusa. <br />SIRACUSA:Well, I have some questions. I must admit, you know, I€ve been sick so I <br />nevergotachancetoreadthis.Andsoifyoudon€tmind,DirectorYuen,ifIaskyouthe <br />questions that I didn€t get around to finding out wherein here naught. In terms of, for example, <br />items for sale, besides say produce and flowers and foliage, would also other items that are sort <br />of related, like note cards that have photographs of orchids, for example, would that be <br />considered a proper item for sale in an Ag-tourism gift shop or sales area, or would be allowing <br />just about anything for sale, whether it had any kind of relationship or not to agricultural <br />products? <br />YUEN:We have provisions for nonagricultural product sales and those are, it€s in, <br />on page 6, number 7, incidental sales of nonagricultural promotional items, including but not <br />limited to coffee, mugs, t-shirts, etc., shall be provided; and it said then, provided the items are <br />specifically promotional to the sites, agricultural activities, and/or products and b) the gross <br />revenues from the sale of nonagricultural promotional items shall be included with the gross <br />revenues from the agricultural tourism activities. <br />SIRACUSA:Thank you. That answers it. Then I had another question as well, and that <br />-. We had a, I think it was the last Hilo Planning Commission meeting, we had someone who <br />was hoping for a bed and breakfast operation who said that she had a lot of fruit trees and things <br />like that, produce growing on the property, that she intended to use in serving the breakfasts. <br />And I know that on the mainland there have been some very upscale kinds of restaurants and <br />inns out in the country that have massive vegetable gardens where people can actually walk <br />through the garden with a basket, pick the produce, take it in, and they€ll cook it for you. And <br />I€m wondering if, yeah, I€ve seen that in National Gardening Magazine and stuff like that. So <br />I€m wondering if something like that would be also covered in this. <br />YUEN:Well, if you had a bed and breakfast permit, then you can supply fruits and <br />produce, uncooked fruits and produce, to your customers, to your guests as part of the bed and <br />breakfast operation, whether you grow them on site or not. But you can€t cook anything for <br />them with the bed and breakfast permit. <br />3 <br /> <br />