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SIRACUSA:Okay. But if it was a restaurant like -. <br />YUEN:Then you€d need another, you€d need a separate permit. It wouldn€t be <br />called a bed and breakfast. You could have a restaurant permit under, you could have a <br />restaurant under a special permit; but we wouldn€t call it a bed and breakfast, cause a bed and <br />breakfast is limited to uncooked, like continental breakfast, because of Department of Health <br />Food Service regulations. <br />SIRACUSA:I was thinking specifically of these fancy country inns in New England <br />that have the big gardens and you go around and pick your produce and then they cook it for you <br />as part of the menu items. And you get to choose what tomato or all those tomatoes are going <br />into your salad; and you can€t complain afterwards, oh, I found a worm in my tomato. Well, you <br />should have, you know, found it when you picked it. But those are things that are becoming <br />increasingly popular. And I can foresee that with Ag Tourism coming on. I know the Ag <br />Departmentispushingit.Youknow,theyhad,thelastyear€sfairatKomohanawastalking <br />about Ag Tourism and they had a fancy glossy brochure. So I imagine it€s just a matter of time <br />until somebody comes up with something like that. <br />YUEN:Yeah, it is becoming a big deal. And a lot of farmers are, there are a lot of <br />people that are doing it and there are a lot of people that are interested in doing it. What happens <br />though is you€re a little bit at risk. And if somebody makes a complaint, then we go out and <br />investigate, and you may wind up getting cited for a violation. So what we want to do is really <br />lay out what level is definitely okay, and you€re not at risk if you stay within these bounds, and <br />you don€t need a special permit but you can operate this kind of facility. <br />SPRINGER:Commissioner Iwashita. <br />IWASHITA:Mr. Director, the restaurant scenario, that would require, if it€s in an Ag <br />area it would require a special permit, right, or a use permit? <br />YUEN:That€s right. It would require a, it wouldn€t be covered under this Ag, <br />under the Ag Tourism itself, so you€d have to get a special permit. You could combine it with <br />Ag Tourism but the restaurant itself would not fit under the Ag Tourism. It would need a special <br />permit, still need a special permit. <br />SPRINGER: Commissioner Graham? <br />GRAHAM: I guess my first reaction reading this bill is rather negative, and it€s <br />negative for infrastructural reasons. And the sense is it€s all done at plan approval. In other <br />words, 40,000, a hundred a day, 40,000 a year visitors can come to the facility and participate <br />this without the public ever having a hearing or a meeting to say the road is not adequate, the <br />turn-around is not adequate or anything. It all takes place in the County offices. And, you know, <br />like just looking at a specific instance, I think maybe only Commissioner Springer was with me <br />on the Commission when we did the Doutor Coffee one. As far as I know, the Planning <br />Department had no problems with tour buses going along the Holualoa Road, which for me was <br />a very substandard road and had no place for tour buses. But they didn€t get a recommendation <br />for tour buses, only because they didn€t get the turn-around proper. But I think it was a real <br />community issue whether tour uses should be coming to an agricultural tourism situation on that <br />4 <br /> <br />