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HOUSEL: Okay. Commissioner Bowman, excuse me, Giffin, did you have a question? GIFFIN: Yes, I do, Mr. Chairman. Mr. Moore, the one from the State, I just want to clarify an issue. Is it true that, I understood you to say, that your information from the State does not indicate that there was any indication of an ancient Hawaiian trail that traversed this K. MOORE: ThatÓs what I understood from talking to Na Ala Hele yesterday. GIFFIN: Okay. So then, Bill Moore, would it be safe to say the of going onto the property and traversing it leased part of the parcel in question, that he in fact was on the pathway that you and your people cleared? B. MOORE: That is my understanding. And just, again, we were never on the property together. GIFFIN: I see. B. MOORE: But after we cleared the property, we did see some flagging along the route that we cleared. And so, you know, and at that point I was trying to check on, or did not follow up with Na Ala Hele because, again, it wasnÓt where they were interested in this area. But so, if that is the route, then we can confirm that but, that is the route that we had hand-cleared. So my belief and based on the correspondence and the discussions I had with Mr. Arakaki, is that the pathway that they were walking on is the pathway that we had cleared. GIFFIN: And bearing all of that in mind, and what you said that, you and the applicant, that what you are willing to do in terms of assisting and creating some sort of pathway that would go through the edge of the property, seems very generous to me. Thank you very much. HOUSEL: Mr. Arakaki, would you like to help clarify this for us where the National Park Service stands? ARAKAKI: Just to make some clarifications, our founding legislation mentions historic trails and routes. And so, you know, we can look at routes as well. The National Trail System Act also, if we cannot find a trail thatÓs with any kind of historic or ancient fabric, we can create connector trails, so that we can connect historic and/or ancient trails that are verified. And the third point is that, you know, last month, as I mentioned, that we did sign a Memorandum of Understanding with the State and the County that specifically mentions Planning Department, that specifically mentions Land Department, Na Ala Hele trails programs, State Historic Preservation Division, Parks and Rec under the County, that we will be all working together, and there is very specific kinds of provisions within the MOU that talks about us working together to implement the accomplished management plan. So IÓd absolutely like to make that very clear to Kawaihae LLC that we are definitely all together in on this. So, thank you. HOUSEL: Commissioner Giffin. 23 EXHIBIT A