2022-08-18 Leeward Exh B (Items 4 Meneghetti PL-SMA-2022-000017)

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DEFRANCO: I just, I have a question for discussion. My understanding of the topography of the land is that it's pahoehoe, most of it, all of it, except one small corner, right, that is six inches deep in some kind of material that's been pushed up on it. And I'm just wondering, if really what we are looking for is to assure us that that one corner doesn't have an inadvertent burial site, and if there is a way to be to just do a due diligence for them to make sure that there is nothing in that one area, rather than making it into something that—you know, all of these other SMAs have already been done, and there isn't anything there, it's all been disturbed and bulldozed, except for this one section that maybe needs a little bit of exploration, is there a way to just limit it so it's not like tied to the whole project? VITOUSEK: Well, I mean the nature with subsurface is you never really know what's underneath there until you are digging through it. As far as the archaeological monitoring, you know, you'd want to have, typically, you would want to have the archaeological monitor there for the initial ground disturbance, so anytime when they are doing the initial grading or excavation on area. Once they've cut through and they figured out what the substrate is there, they've pretty much eliminated any chance of finding anything. You don't need the monitor there while they are framing up the house, right? DEFRANCO: Right. VITOUSEK: It's just that initial DEFRANCO: So, but hasn't it already been excavated? I mean I'm looking at it, I'm looking at an area that's already been excavated, and it's already down to like bedrock, right? Except for this corner piece. VITOUSEK: And even then, I don't think that the corner is unexcavated; every part of this lot has been disturbed. DEFRANCO: Okay. VITOUSEK: But the issue that you see sometimes in areas that is disturbed is if there is fill that's imported on top of the existing surface, you are preserving that surface below the ground DEFRANCO: Yes. VITOUSEK: —and so there is a possibility that remains exist below disturbed areas. And what Matt is saying is that there is such a very small possibility of that because this area has been disturbed to a level where there is, in all of his informal testing, he couldn't find anywhere there any subsurface deposits that could exist. That being said, as Matt said, there is still a possibility; we can never rule anything out ever because of what it looks like on the surface. So the archaeological monitoring is kind of an in-between thing where he's looked at it, he's tested it, he said, yeah, I really don't think there is anything here. But because of the fact that there have been discoveries in the vicinity, right next door, it's kind of like a safeguard where if they do find something, there will be people who are able to handle it according to the protocols that exist. 13 EXHIBIT B