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SHOCKLEY:My name is Tom Shockley andmy addressis 73-4370 Huehue Street, <br />Kaloko Mauka. <br />ALAMEDA:Thank you Mr. Shockley. <br />SHOCKLEY:Thank you. <br />ALAMEDA:Mr. Mooers I already swore you in and your name and address is already <br />on the record. You heard what Mr. Hayashi presented. If you€d like to add anything or if you <br />missed anything. You also got the Department€s recommendation with the conditions. Do you <br />have any thoughts or comments? <br />MOOERS:Yes. Obviously it€s a pretty standard application for the Kaloko Mauka. <br />The conditions are standard. To address Commissioner Watanabe€s question regarding the <br />actionbytheCouncil.TheCouncildidvotetosend,onfirstreading,tosupporttheChangeof <br />Zone with a condition that final subdivision approval not be granted until the intersection was <br />improved. But there was a 2-year limit and if a 2-year period passed and improvements were not <br />made then they could be granted final subdivision approval. There was some question about it. I <br />suspect the language will be modified again. As you know trying to draft language in a meeting <br />like this sometimes you don€t get the clearest read on it. I think sometimes what we€re trying to <br />say and what actually happens may not be the same thing. But the intent is clearly that the <br />Council is anxious to put pressure on the Department of Transportation to make the <br />improvements. It appears if not a total amount of funds available there€s a substantial amount of <br />money available to make improvements to the intersection. My understanding is that to this date <br />DOT has not accepted a particular design of improvements and until they do that then the <br />improvements can€t be made. The applicants who were present which was the Gesling and <br />Totah applications. The five families who were involved in those applications testified before <br />the Council and they accepted that condition with the stipulation that it not run indefinitely. My <br />feelings in general are, is I don€t normally advise clients to accept conditions that they can€t <br />control. So in other words if you require the applicant to make an improvement or to do <br />something in order to make the zoning in effect, the subdivision in effect, that€s not a problem <br />because clearly they€re controllable in destiny. But in a case where you put a condition on which <br />you€re asking for a third party to perform is problematic. But in this case they agreed to accept it <br />because they recognized that this is an issue and they will be working diligently on their behalf <br />to try to get Department of Transportation to agree to what those improvements might be and <br />then to work with the Council to transfer the funds from the County to the State in order to pay <br />for those improvements. <br />ALAMEDA:Follow up Mr. Watanabe? <br />WATANABE:Yeah. So with that in mind would a revision or an additional condition <br />similar to that be acceptable? <br />MOOERS:Yes it would. The concern I had with the language that the Council <br />started inserting this is that they were trying to specify what the improvements would be. And, I <br />had a problem with that because it€s, the Council doesn€t get to decide what the improvements <br />EXHIBIT C <br />5 <br /> <br />