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get to Kahakai School. So they never get this far north on Queen Kaahumanu Highway. Another issue, because Highway 11 is a state route we asked Mr. Morioka who is Deputy Director of the Department of Transportation several questions. Those questions and his responses were: 1 Does the school have to be granted new access rights to enter Highway 11 based on the new type of usage and increase to traffic flow? And his answer, it appears that the school will need to come into the State DOT for an access relocation and modification request. Furthermore, the parcel will likely require additional mapping and documentation in accordance with Land Court requirements. HDOT will then have to designate the legal access opening. Question - Will this portion of Highway 11 have to be reduced to a 25 mph school zone? Answer - The DOT follows works on rule of thumb for school zone speed limits, the posted speed will be reduced by 10 mph for school zones that brings it down to 45. Question - If they used entrances and exits to the school from another location instead of from Highway 11 will the speed limit have to be reduced anyway regardless of whether there were driveways because this is a school? And the answer was this would depend if the school perimeter will have any access controlssuchasfencingorwallsforthehighwayfrontageportions.Wedontseeanyofthose on the plans. In view of these issues we suggested that the applicant and the county be required to explore establishing access to the property from Hualalai Road or preferably, from Kailua View Estates via an extension of Welo Street. The former would entail obtaining an agreement with the owner of the property on the southern boundary of the applicants property. While the latter would involve crossing property owned by several owners including Bishop Estate, I understand that a lot owned by the owner of the 5 acres and two lots owned by another common owner on the northern boundary. Both or either alternative would entail construction of a road less than 1/3 of a mile long. We prefer to access from Kailua View Estates because: 1) the Highway 11/Nani Kailua Drive intersection is already signalized; and 2) most importantly it would afford non-motorized access to the school for the many children who might attend the school residing in the Kailua View Estates subdivision and Kona Heights subdivision. If such other access is possible, it might be acceptable to also allow right-turn in and out, right-turn out from the driveways on Highway 11. But whether or not access from Highway 11 is allowed, the speed limit will probably have to be reduced because it will be a school zone and access controls arent possible. So, one of the testifiers earlier today said that none of the students presently walk to school. By permitting and getting them to work on this alternate access we might have a number of students walking to school and that is a good thing isnt it. We get rid of some of the cars on the highway. Thank you. GALDONES:Commissioners any question of Mr. Gimpel? Commissioner Graham? GRAHAM:Joel, I appreciate your comments on a lot of applications we get so in a sense this gives an opportunity to discuss my concerns with you- a knowledgeable on this and still gives the Applicant a chance to come back and make comments later about what he hears. So, can I try a few things and see what you think? GIMPEL:Shoot. GRAHAM:Okay. First off to all of you, the overall concern is not- to me, is not more traffic on Queen K Highway. Like you say, most of you are already using it. Its the fact that you got 2 new intersections, you know, I mean theyre not full on intersections but theyre 2 new 21 EXHIBIT D