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traffic getting-on and getting-off. And that is a big part of the problem that what goes on with Queen K Highway so thats the key I think more than any additional traffic on the highway. When we look at the traffic flow in the impact report the traffic flow is really bad and slow you know like from- I think its 7:15 to 8:30 in the morning. And so my first thought was maybe different hours of operation would be helpful in some way but I kind of I can feel it cuts two ways. If the traffic is slow then it seems much safer getting in and out even though maybe youre holding things up a little. If the traffic is fast then it seems a little more dangerous getting in and out. Do you see any way that hours of operation is of value to deal with on this application? GIMPEL:We didnt discuss hours of operation on purpose for- that was one of the reasons. In my mind that obviously the slower the traffic the fewer the accidents or at least the less serious the accident that might result. What our concern is, is that the right-in, right-out only will require cars to, that want to go back the other way or approaching from the north to go aroundandthenmakeanextratripsomewhereonsidestreetsineffect.Someonemightbe trying to u-turn somewhere which is not a good idea but even if they go throughout that were suggesting on Nani Kailua and then around it creates more opportunity for accidents. Going down Nani Kailua Drive through the Pines, thats a semi-residential neighborhood anyway so I dont think its unnecessarily a good idea to- unnecessarily add traffic there. Id much rather have it go to signalized intersection at Nani Kailua, go mauka one block or so and then go to Welo Street and right into the school. GRAHAM:When Bill was talking about that turnaround issue both coming one direction and coming the other, the one turnaround way which seemed rather benign would be for parents who drop off kids and want to go back south afterwards so they can come out, go to the Nani Kailua intersection, shoulder left across and come back and do a merge. One thing came to my mind then, given 120 students and its going to be starting school and any school a certain time of day, is that left turn lane at Nani Kailua Drive long enough to handle the amount of traffic thats going to want to stack up there and wait for the light? GIMPEL:It channelized now. GRAHAM:Is it long enough for all this channelized? GIMPEL:Im not a traffic engineer so I cant tell you its long enough but my sense is that that isnt a serious concern with regard to the number of cars that will be wanting to make that left turn. Im not sure. It may well be that many of the cars that are coming from the south will continue to go north after that. I dont know. We dont know and- GRAHAM:Like go shopping after school or something like that, yeah. GIMPEL:Go shopping after school or going to work when they drop the kids off, I dont know. GRAHAM:Okay. Thank you. 22 EXHIBIT D