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opposition to it. And because that is, I would encourage the rest of my colleagues to vote in
<br />support of the motion.
<br />ALAMEDA:Okay, other discussion? Id like to share something, too, regarding the
<br />Community Development Plan. You know, I think theres a, I agree along those lines that the
<br />Community should be more involved in planning for their own development. However, I think
<br />there might be a misconception that a Community Development Process will ensure win-win all
<br />the way around. I as a facilitator in many different places with different types of people from
<br />different types of efforts and initiatives realize that even a Community Development Plan
<br />Process will not ensure community consensus. It is very difficult in any community to reach
<br />consensus regarding these issues. I think Commissioner Salavea brings up a real good point that
<br />would probably split this community. And I think Commissioner Galdones and Commissioner
<br />Iwashita brings up another good point that would probably split this community. But the notion
<br />of, you know, we need a community plan kind of, with the perception that, oh, that will in itself
<br />bringcommunityconsensusisanillusionfrommyownfacilitationofsuchprocesses.
<br />Nonetheless,tryingtomakethateffortIthinkis,itisaworthyconcept.Buttojuststateitasifit
<br />will be the solution is not accurate in my own experience. Commissioner Iwashita.
<br />IWASHITA:Thank you, Mr. Chair. I dont have any experience, okay? My strong
<br />feelings about it, in part, arise from my moving around this state and having seen how things
<br />have gone and seeing really a need for doing something different. I mean if we keep doing what
<br />were doing, were going to deserve what we get. All right? And so my state of mind is such
<br />that anything is better than what is out there right now, absolutely. Youve got to try something
<br />else. Right? Otherwise, you fit the definition of insanity. We keep doing the same thing over
<br />and over again, and were going to expect something different from Kihei, something different
<br />from Kapolei, something different from LA; and that is insanity. Thats like my golf game. I
<br />keep going out there and doing the same thing, expecting the scores to get better. It aint
<br />happening.
<br />So I appreciate the Chairs point that, you know, there aint no guarantees. I agree. There aint
<br />no guarantees. But I would like to share one example, I guess. About a year ago or so, plus or
<br />minus, I was present at a meeting at Kalanianaole School cafeteria by the Rural South Hilo
<br />something, I forget exactly what it was called, but they brought down a fella by the name of
<br />Mr. Aimes, I dont remember his first name, a consultant kind of person apparently something
<br />like what you described, who facilitated together with a bunch of other professionals, I guess, up
<br />in Flagstaff, Arizona, what I would call a Community Development Plan Process which took a
<br />couple of years. In the end they essentially had an agreement in the community, the entire
<br />Flagstaff community. I dont know how many people live there. Ive driven through there
<br />couple of times. But basically they agreed this is where the development is going to take place,
<br />this is where development is not going to take place, this is where the housing is going to be,
<br />where the commercial development is going to be, where the college is going to be, how big the
<br />college is going to be. They drew all the lines on the map; and when they went to their Council
<br />to get it approved, there was not one ounce of opposition. As far as housing, the housing
<br />community from those that service the homeless all the way up to the high end developers, they
<br />all agreed this is how were going to do it, this is where the housing is going to be, and this is
<br />how the housing will get done. I dont know if it has actually been done, but they agreed. And,
<br />you know, thats one example.
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