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sheep and move ‘em to hunting area and open up a special unit \[unclear\] hunt kind of thing, I mean, <br />if there’s some way we could throw that on the table and look at where we get a large amount of <br />animals at once open to a different hunting area where there’s not a lot and have a special hunt? Just <br />a suggestion and an idea for a later talk… <br /> <br />KS: Yeah, that’s something I’m trying to explore as well, if it’s something that we could do. I know – <br />\[unclear\] my predecessor, Huns, did something similar \[unclear\] sheep from Mauna Kea down into <br />Keamoku and got into a lot of trouble for it – so there’s a lot of people that are very hesitant to move <br />animals in that nature, but it’s something I would like to explore and, I mean, I think I have a legal <br />ability to put them into a game management area, um, but I’m not sure if I would have the approval <br />of my superiors or not, I don’t know, I have no idea, so it’s something I’m willing to explore. <br /> <br />BL: Brian Ley – District 4. Hey, since we just had 1872 pass that says the game animals are allowed <br />quality habitat – I would think we could use that as an excuse to take these poor sheep out of these <br />over grazed areas and move ‘em to an area that is – has suitable habitat for them as, ah, you know, <br />just a stick to poke out there. <br /> <br />KS: Yeah, I will try to help, try to use that to fight my case. <br /> <br />RD: Abraham, I have a question. <br /> <br />AA: OK. <br /> <br />RD: Ah, Kanalu, I saw recently in the paper where they were talking about building a fire breaks on the <br />mountain to get down on the fire fuel hazard in mamane and palila. <br /> <br />KS: Yes… <br /> <br />RD: Yeah, my question is when they said they talked about eradicating the sheep they said they were <br />mostly successful. My question is this – if I recall – the judge’s order was to get to a zero population <br />of sheep. Is that correct? <br /> <br />KS: Correct. <br /> <br />RD: Is, is, and then so – quite frankly you’ve had a lot of time to do that and you’ve not been able to do it <br />– are you – my question is this – are you breaking the judge’s order and is the judge’s order able to <br />be fulfilled the way it’s written now? <br /> <br />KS: Hmm… I’m not a lawyer so I’m not sure if I’m qualified to answer this to, you know, I will just say <br />what I understand. <br /> <br />RD: OK. <br /> <br />KS: Um, we are making – we continue to eradicate and shoot animals so we have no season and no bag <br />limit for sheep and goats on Mauna Kea and we also have, um, aerial eradication operations that we <br />carry out a minimum of twice a year – most times it’s four to six times a year, um, I believe that those <br />efforts fulfill that judge’s order. I don’t think there was a time line on you have to eradicate these <br />6 <br /> <br /> <br />