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BOWMAN: I don’t have a question of the applicant but I do have a general <br />question for the Planning Department. The lots makai of their lot as shown in Exhibit J, <br />those are under, I mean, they’re in water now, right? Just for my information, is that so <br />they were, what happened to them? <br />WATANABE: Well, go ahead. I’m sorry. Go ahead, Chris. <br />SIRACUSA: That’s one of the reasons I’m asking for a site visit. <br />YUEN: I want to again ask Mr.Yeh if he has any objections to my giving <br />what our version of the answer to that would be. <br />YEH: No. And then we can respond accordingly. <br />YUEN: Okay. There are some variation in topography. Some lots are <br />completely under water, some lots are partially under water and there may be some lots, <br />particularly -. You see there’s a big turn in the road that goes inland. <br />BOWMAN: Yes. <br />YUEN: There’s actually a cove there and some of the lots in there, I’m not <br />sure that all of those lots are completely or partially under water in the cove portion. But <br />there have been houses that have been built at various times, including times in which the <br />rules were not the same as they are now. So there are homes in the area, as you’ll see the <br />aerial photo, and it shows there are a few homes makai of the road. So, you know, there <br />is a fair amount of water on that row of lots. <br />BOWMAN: But they haven’t been condemn and taken by the County or the <br />State? <br />YUEN: No. <br />BOWMAN: Okay. Thank you. <br />WATANABE: In response to that also in Today’s Tribune Herald I believe the <br />Department of Land and Natural Resources is going to be considering one issue where <br />the owner’s lot is basically submerged; and he’s talking about, you know, building up a <br />wall so that he can have a refuge for the fish and the green sea turtles, etc. They’ll be <br />considering that I think it was in the near future anyway. But that article did indicate that <br />the actual land is owned by the individual but the State owns the water that flows over the <br />land, and whatever wildlife enters within the water. So it’s kind of convoluted. <br />BOWMAN: And just pardon my ignorance cause I live on the other side of the <br />island where it goes like this, yeah. <br /> EXHIBIT A <br />11 <br /> <br />