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YEH: And speaking to Mr. Watanabe’s mention about that, that’s <br />actually, that property that you saw in today’s Tribune Herald article was actually one of <br />the permits that we provided to the Commission where a low-tide datum was used to <br />determine the shoreline in 2005. So it illustrates essentially the various shifts in policy <br />that were occurring then. I have talked to the clients, they do feel that it would be fair <br />and appropriate for the Commission to visit that site. My only concern, of course, is that <br />when we get into this issue later about what standard applies when that we’re going to <br />have some differences about that. So, that’s all. <br />WATANABE: Well, hopefully we’ll have enough Commissioners present that <br />there can be some discussion amongst us and we can still arrive at some type of <br />reasonable conclusion. <br />YEH: Understood. <br />WATANABE: Do we have any other questions for the applicant? <br />SIRACUSA: Can, can -? <br />WATANABE: Yes, Ms. Siracusa. <br />SIRACUSA: Can we decide among us here if the other Commissioners would <br />feel more comfortable with a site visit so that they can see the situation on the ground? <br />WATANABE: Yeah, I was planning to address that. And I think, you know, if <br />we decide that a site visit is appropriate that the staff would be able to, you know, give <br />the other Commissioners due notice. Yes, Mr. Yeh, do you have -? <br />YEH: Well, the only other thing I was going to say is, you know, that’s <br />good to do; but even in the absence of that we feel that the photographic evidence that <br />we’re going to provide or have provided already is also good for the purpose. But I <br />understand. <br />WATANABE: Okay, thank you. <br />SIRACUSA: The -. <br />WATANABE: Ms. Siracusa. <br />SIRACUSA: The photographs are aerial views and they’re great; but it doesn’t <br />show a lot of things that you would see if you were standing five or six feet above, you <br />know, as where our eyes are and catch details that way. I just, you know, feel that if it <br />was me coming from the other side of the island I would want to have a better feel for the <br />situation. <br /> EXHIBIT A <br />12 <br /> <br />