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work, it costs a lot of money now to put them up. Not too many people can afford them. <br />They’re going to move to Puna. They’re going to buy pre-existing lots and build their <br />homes because that’s where they can afford it. I think it would be nice if the village <br />centers were larger, you know, not just because we do building or developing but because <br />I think they’re going to need it later on. It’s going to have to be large. And one of the <br />problems that we’re going to see is a lot of these centers are plopped in the middle of a <br />bunch of lots with different owners. And how you get each of these owners to sell their <br />property to do this development or make this project come together is going to be tough, <br />you know, you might get a few of them. But then the next guy will see it as his property <br />is worth a lot of money because of what’s going on around him, and I think it probably <br />won’t happen; and it’ll be sad because it will prevent all these developments that will <br />bring jobs to this community and keep the guys within the community. <br />I’ve got to say that I was also on that community board that W.H. Shipman had put <br />together. They brought in a bunch of community leaders and did a planning for the land <br />that they own. And one of the good things that I thought about was that Shipman had <br />already owned this property. They own a big enough chunk to do what they wanted to do <br />with their land versus a bunch of different lot owners that are going to end up arguing <br />over a different development. And there was a lot of planning, a lot of thinking, a lot of, <br />it was a fair process, I thought, that went into this. And I thought it was a good chance to <br />bring in businesses, to bring in the type of walking community that would have been nice <br />for the area and also provide surrounding housing that would keep a lot of our local <br />people on this island. For me it’s sad because I look at my kids, and they’re getting older <br />and they’re not going to be able to find good paying jobs by the time they graduate <br />college and come back to Hawaii. They’re going to end up moving to the mainland, and <br />I’m going to have to move to the mainland to be by my grandkids. And it’s sad because <br />we see a lot of the local people are moving over to Vegas, Oregon, all over the place to <br />get jobs. A lot of retirees are moving in here to retire. And, you know, if you ask a lot of <br />the local guys, they don’t come to these meetings but I’m pretty sure they’re for this <br />development. They want the jobs, they want things nearby and they want to be able to <br />raise their families here. <br />In closing, I just want to say, you know, I hope you guys consider these things before <br />passing this or recommending your approval. Thank you. <br />WATANABE: Thank you. I’m almost afraid to ask. Do we have any questions <br />for Mr. Yamada? Do we move on? Thank you, Mr. Yamada. By the way, I do <br />remember that incident with the subdivision. Mr. Fukumoto, name and address, please <br />and then you may provide your testimony. <br />FUKUMOTO: Good evening. I’m David Fukujmoto. I’m the president of Fuku <br />Bonsai in Kurtistown. I moved here in 1973. I formed the first certified export nursery; <br />and the certified export nursery now is a thriving industry that a few years ago had a <br />larger gross income than Puna Sugar ever did. And so I’m very, very proud of being the <br />father of a major new export industry. Right now we are working on an aquaculture <br />industry that will also be exported. And I think that if you’ve been to Kurtistown lately <br /> <br />21 <br /> <br />