2022-12-13 Police Commission Regular Minutes

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Hawaii Police Commission Special Meeting Minutes December 13, 2022 Page 15 think they're at the state that Honolulu was at, as far as accepting mainland transfers, but that's something she would definitely look into. As much as they're capitalizing on their trained officers, she would also like to receive and look into methods on how we can do that. It would help with their recruitment as well and hopefully help fast-track some officers so that we can get them out onto the road where they're needed. ➢ Paul Applegate stated that at the department he's currently at, they don't do lateral transfers, but they do accept applicants with an abbreviated training program because of their extensive experience. You have some people with years and years of law enforcement experience, and very good backgrounds, so they have an abbreviated course for them to get the Hawaii Laws and practices in place. He would want to look into doing that here as chief. First and foremost, as he said earlier, he would want to recruit local talent. Part of that is having a regularly scheduled recruit class on the west side. We could use technology such as Zoom at times. As far as lateral in State transfers, he's in support of that. He thinks people freely move between islands for various islands, as he did. The laws are all the same, except for departmental policies and procedures and local ordinances. Vice Chair Brown stated he thinks what Commissioner Quartararo was getting at was that several years ago this gentleman who was either the chief or sheriff in Washington DC arrested or got the DC sniper. He tried to move to Honolulu and started in patrol. Benjamin Moszkowicz stated that he can share a little bit because he met him when he came to Honolulu. He applied just like everybody else, went through a background, went through a full academy, and worked as a patrol officer basically an entry-level position from the day he started. • Commissioner Lassiter asked how would you feel about what your salary would be in this position. Is it an acceptable one? ➢ Benjamin Moszkowicz stated it's a concern, but it's not a concern for him as an individual. As an applicant for the job, he understood from the job announcement what his salary would be and he is totally ok with that. His concern is, how do you choose a deputy chief and convince that person to follow you and to do all this work? It's a lot more responsibility, it's a lot more work, it's a lot more public. The salary commission hasn't met since 2017 or 2018 and hasn't adjusted pointed salaries. How do you convince that person to do that job for a significant cut in pay? He thinks the salary commission here needs to take a hard look at the fact that assistant chiefs are going to be making more than the deputy chief. By the end of 2024, by the end of the contract period in 2024, an assistant chief here will make approximately 34% more than the deputy chief here. To him, that's a huge issue, it makes it a