2022-12-13 Police Commission Regular Minutes

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Hawaii Police Commission Special Meeting Minutes December 13, 2022 Page 16 huge impediment to finding the right person. He knows the salary commission is who sets the salaries and it's not really a negotiation thing, it's just a matter of getting the right information and the rights facts in front of the salary commission, so they can adjust salaries. If they haven't done it in four or five years, SHOPO has received several across-the-board pay increases. This is something he thinks should be looked at. ➢ Sherry Bird stated she knew the salary when she signed up for the position. She is perfectly fine with what it is. ➢ Edward Ignacio stated he knew what the salary was when he applied for it. He agrees with Mr. Moszkowicz's points but wanted to add, what's the motivation for your soon-to-be leaders to become leaders when your captain is making more than your chief or major? That creates an area of stagnation because you'll get to a point, say you're an assistant chief or major, they're making more than the chief, so why take on the added responsibility? What makes the chief position more appealing? The candidates sitting before you are looking at serving their community and the department, that's why they're sitting here right now. You also could've had some people along the way that probably would've been great chiefs as well, but they chose not to because it would be a cut in pay. He thinks this is something that needs to be looked at. ➢ Paul Applegate stated if he gets selected as chief he would take a cut in pay also. The reason he put in for this position was to serve and do the best that he can to make a difference. He thinks at some point in the future, something like a percentage, a certain percentage higher than the highest assistant chief would be something that would address the issue. • Commissioner Andrion stated briefly describe your position on HRS 134-3, better known as Hawaii's newly enacted conceal and carry laws. What challenges police officer training and administrative processes need to be accessed in implementing and enforcing? ➢ Paul Applegate stated this is one of those legislations that are enacted and we have to abide by because it's a constitutional right. It came upon the state relatively quickly. At his current department, they moved rapidly to adjust and address the concerns. He stated this is one of those areas of training that cannot be ignored and would have to be dealt with immediately. The officers aren't used to walking around and knowing someone is carrying a concealed firearm on a daily basis, it's not a common occurrence. To have that kind of specific training is very important so there's no misunderstanding and no accidents that happen. It would be a definite priority to get this out. Another component of that would be communicating this to the public, so they understand what their responsibilities are and what's happening. There are a