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adequate shopping experience and safety, its really what the debate and the testimony is here today. So, you know, in all respect, I would ask that you reconsider the notion that maybe this is going to create a strip mall and, in Mr. Yuens view, but yet looking at this as an area of urban expansion for the future insomuch that its going to create an ability for people that are in the most congested area and the fastest growing four subdivisions to be serviced adequately, as I say, for now and into the future. So I thank you for that ability to testify. SPRINGER:Youre welcome. Thank you, Mr. Safarik. Commissioners, any questions for the testifier? Commissioner Siracusa. SIRACUSA:Good morning. There are already some businesses that are on the highway that are not included in these three nodes or bubbles as you called them last time. For examplethatSunshine,IthinkitscalledSunshineNursery,isoneofthem.ItsbyParadise Drive which is a real -. I have, me, the plant lady, you know, I have never dared to drive on into that nursery because the traffic concerns are so hellaciousAnd then just outside of Pahoa there . is that Athenas huli huli chicken; and supposedly theres a sign saying that theres going to be a Blue Rock self storage, which I dont know about. But, anyway, it seemed to be, theres bubbles already that are not part of what youre talking about. If we start developing these three nodes or bubbles it wont just be three nodes or bubbles. These will be added to whats already there; and I dont know when or how those got permitted. But I dont think theyre a visual advantage to the driving experience. You know, many years ago I read a book by Isabella Byrd entitled Six Months in the Sandwich Islands Shes a Victorian lady who hiked all over the place, and shes . just very good at descriptions; and she described the road between what was then Olaa and Pahoa, and she said it was one of the most beautiful roads in the island. And I think anyone who has driven that can tell you not, not today its not. And I think that, I dont see how you can reconcile keeping it to the only three nodes when theres already more than that to begin with. Do you care to address that concern of mine? SAFARIK:Well, I can, yes, I do. Thank you for the question. As far as Sunshine Nursery, theyre operating an agricultural pursuit, didnt need rezoning, did not need rezoning. Theyareoperatingaccordingtotheirlandusedesignation,whichisAg.TheBlueRock,huli huli, storage, I believe Mr. Yuen need to look into that as far as land use. I dont think theyre permitted. Yourecorrect,someofthenodesthatItalkedabout,orIshouldsaythethreeodesthatItalked about, Commissioner Siracusa, is an area that would be most accessible by off the main Highway 130.Thesubdivisionswouldbeabletoaccessthesethreenodeswithouthavingtogetonto Highway 130. And I think thats an important component of this decision that youre going to be making. SIRACUSA:Okay, then my question is these three nodes are very close together, really; and why have three when you can just have one where it has already started, like Wiki Wiki, 18 EXHIBIT A