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which I understand has? Orchidland Drive has the zoning. People still would be able to go internally and not spend much time on the highway, if any. SAFARIK:I think what were talking about here is not so much that were trying to control something. What were trying to do is provide adequate infrastructure and adequate access for an area thats already the fastest growing in the State of Hawaii. We are not going to stop thousands of people from moving in. You know, I would submit that right now were looking at about 40,000 people in the Puna region. That shift of population is starting to move out into Puna. Why should we limit our shopping experiences to just one location and then totally impact Orchidland? I say that if we look at it from the standpoint of nodes rather than a strip mall concept, that these nodes would service the primary heavily populated corridor of Puna. SPRINGER:Other Commissioners? Commissioner Iwashita. IWASHITA:My main concern right now is the notion that, its more than a notion. I thinkitsafactthat,youknow,thisapplicationreallyconstitutesaspotzoningorrezoning. And, you are right on my observation, that there is a lot of growth and development taking place in Puna that really needs to be addressed, the needs of which need to be addressed. I guess my question to you, and I dont know if this is as a private citizen or in your capacity as a Councilperson. But under the General Plan amendments and the community development plan process that has been initiated, I would feel a lot more comfortable that this project along with, be considered actually within the context of the Community Development Plan, and it would take longer and the needs wouldnt be addressed as quickly if we were to take action. But it really seems to me that the kind of concerns that you raised are larger community concerns; and that my idea or my perception of community development plans and the process that it would take is intended to engage the community, the local community, in this case Orchidland, Ainaloa, Paradise Park, Tiki Gardens, all of these communities together, come together and hopefully come to an agreement on how -. And I agree that there needs to be more commercial areas, right, to service -. You know, if all of these subdivisions were built out fully, you know, its 100,000 people, whatever its going to be, those kind of uses are going to be necessary. But I really think that thats a process that requires not this Commission taking individual action on individual developers requests for special use permits. Id like your response to that. SAFARIK:Well, Mr. Iwashita, I tend to agree on some of the statements that you made. I think this is a broad-based community initiative; and that the community development plans certainly should address some of these concerns that were talking about today. Some of that I think would surface in the same discussion that we are sitting around talking today. Its just that when that surfaces it may be two or three years from now. And two or three years from now at the level that were looking at building permits, just in Paradise Park, its approximately 1 permits per day, just in Paradise Park. We have 8800 lots and there were last year 375 building permits. Ainaloa, Orchidland are right in that area that a Paradise Parks land becomes higher than what the norm can afford, cause right now an acre in Paradise Park is up at $60,000. Ainaloa and Orchidland will become attractive because the pricing is still affordable in that region. 19 EXHIBIT A