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PAWU:However, it€s approximately 5 ž miles, I believe, from Keaau to Aulii, it€s <br />four miles to Pohaku Place and, that is Orchidland and Aulii. So I would estimate it€s about 5 ž <br />miles and it€s probably about 5 miles further on to the new Malama Market and the new <br />shopping center at the entrance to Pahoa. So there€ll be about 4 to 5 miles either way. The <br />advantage to the community is they wouldn€t have to go out on the highway, the Orchidland <br />community members. They could access it through their private roadways. But, for instance, if <br />you€re going from Hilo back to where most of our subdivision owners live, the Keaau location is <br />somewhat out of our way with the bypass. And if you€re going, the Aulii location is toward the <br />end of the subdivision, so it€s in the middle of the area, and then going all the way out to Pahoa <br />is quite a long trip. It would be about ten miles round trip either way for a member to go from <br />our subdivision to the existing stores, about ten miles round trip. <br />SIRCACUSA:Thank you. <br />YAMADA:Oneoftheitemsthatwetalkedaboutalsothatwasalotofconcernwith <br />the Board Members and others walking around the community was there€s already a <br />convenience store nearby, and then there€s a new grocery store which is like a half-sized store in <br />Pahoa. But what they wanted was, a lot of the complaints were they wanted competitively- <br />priced groceries, you know, some place where they could -. A lot of them were found driving to <br />town out into Hilo to get these competitive-priced groceries also; and they wanted competitive, <br />you know, something that they wouldn€t hesitate to go daily and buy from. So that€s how we <br />came about with the full-scale market also, was the only way we could provide them that was to <br />come in with a full-scale market. <br />SPRINGER:Thank you, Mr. Yamada. <br />YAMADA:Thank you. <br />SPRINGER:I€d like to remind the Commissioners that the point in discussion that <br />we€re at now is a discussion of the proposed withdrawal of the contested case and, while <br />Mr. Pawu certainly mentioned the scale or full service market as one of their recommended <br />conditions. Thank you for that, Commissioner Siracusa. Are there any more questions of the <br />testifier based on this testimony regarding the withdrawal of the contested case? Commissioner <br />Iwashita? <br />IWASHITA:I guess, just a clarification. Did I understand that there was a split vote of <br />the Board on whether to withdraw the contested case request? <br />PAWU:Yes, sir, the vote was five for withdrawal, one against the withdrawal, and <br />one abstention; and as Chair of that meeting I did not vote. <br />SPRINGER:Commissioners, given today€s discussion I would like to ask if <br />Mr. Torigoe can give us some guidance regarding where we are. We have approved the <br />Community Association€s standing in a contested case, we€re now presented with a possibility of <br />6 <br /> EXHIBIT A <br /> <br />