2005-05-20 EXHIBIT B CC Bill No 23 Draft 2 PC

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under the grubbing or grading measure I think that we are looking at a revision of Chapter 10 sometime in the future. And if I was going to include any signage features I would hope that would go in there and its not properly in this part. The Planning Directors recommendations that we move this from Chapter 14 and apply it in Chapters 23 and 25 makes sense to me. Hes reasoned with me and I yield to his logic and better knowledge on this. Also, in our discussions I see that you would have to be changing some other rules regarding SMA Permits, Special Use Permits and etc. some other permits. Im not trying to just mandate that you do this but I think that with the change regarding these notifications it would be important. So those would apply to the broadest number of issues that people would be able to find out whats going on in their neighborhood. The reason, if I may explain briefly why I wanted to do this is because quite frequently over the years Ive testified at more than one issue. It was both as a citizen and as a Council member. And frequently people in their testimony to me or fellow testifiers have said well, nobody told me about this. Why didnt anybody notify me? Even when everybody has made a great effort to notify people, whether it be public notices, radio, or other methods of notificationitsbeeninadequateforsomeofthepeople.Andratherthanmakingyouguyslisten to people saying why didnt anybody tell me, which Im sure you have heard that before and the same thing for me. I dont mind listening to people but I dont like hearing their frustration and sense of estrangement from Government because of the lack of notice that- or perceived lack of notice on their part. So, this is an effort to try to address that. The Bill, I think youve read it before and looked at it. Chris has probably given some explanation of where Im going with this and I guess at this point rather than talking on and on Id like to have you get a chance to ask me any questions and thank you for your time. SPRINGER:Youre welcome. Thank you Mr. Jacobson. Commissioner Siracusa? SIRACUSA:Im very grateful to you for bringing this whole issue forward because it is quite true that there are a lot of people you know out there who live a very reclusive lifestyle. They dont get the newspaper and they dont you know leave the house too often to see signs posted here or there. But they, you know do know whats happening in their neighborhood and suddenly theres a bulldozer and the place is being cleared and what, I didnt get a chance so Im glad youve done this. My first impression when looking at this was, I wish you hadnt taken out the part about the grading and the grubbing permits because there are things that I have seen where the- a parcel is bulldozed on a Sunday or on a holiday like New Years Day without a permit and then by the time you can get to report it to any agency of government its too late the deal is done. And whatever was there whether it was a fishing heiau or a burial or some endangered plants is gone forever. I understand now having talked to some of my fellow Commissioners what some of the concerns were that made you pull that out and I was wondering- I hope that you will be able to find another methodology to deal with that problem. You know like, making the bulldozer operators, you know, responsible for making sure theres a permit or something, whatever it may be. I hope you wont throw out the baby with the bath water. Id be willing to support this because I believe that the other things on it are important and the public notification is an extremely important part of our governmental process. So thank you once again. Did you want to address anything about that grading or grubbing permit part? JACOBSON:Well, I share your vexation with this. I, as you can see, I really by putting this into Chapter 14 I really tried to draw across many areas and kill a lot of birds with one stone. EXHIBIT B