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as far as, maybe not geometric but there is a growth pattern projected for the next eight years <br />and beyond. <br />WATANABE: You have a follow-up? <br />SIRACUSA: Follow-up. Yeah, there are also a lot of projects for condominiums <br />and that sort of thing that have been permitted and not yet built yet; and I don’t know if you <br />took those into consideration. But it’s not a straight two percent a year; it’s an exponential <br />increase in percentage, the population growth. <br />WATANABE: Well -. Yes, Mr. Iwashita. <br />IWASHITA: Thank you, Mr. Chair. I’m looking at page – what is this – 10 of the <br />February 28, 2008 supplement to your TIAR. And I guess my question is as to the Kahaluu- <br />Keauhou Parkway if that’s not actually built by 2016, if it’s not going to actually be built to <br />2025 then that affects the credibility of your report, is that correct? <br />OKANEKU: Yes. <br />IWASHITA: And same thing for the Keauhou-Napoopoo Bypass Road, the <br />assumption is that it will actually be completed and fully utilized by 2016, and if that doesn’t <br />actually come to pass then that’s again would affect the credibility of your report, is that <br />correct? <br />OKANEKU: Well, that does not affect this project as much as the Parkway does <br />cause, again, that’s to the south, you know. But -. <br />IWASHITA: Okay. The -. <br />OKANEKU: If I may, you know, the supplement that Steve had mentioned earlier, <br />th <br />the May 15, we had, I had done a supplemental analysis on the scenario where, like you say, <br />the Parkway is not built, Laaloa Avenue is not extended, so basically we’re back to Alii <br />Drive as our primary access. And that analysis, actually that analysis was the basis for the <br />first study. But we didn’t do a regional study so this, the supplemental actually is the <br />regional analysis if these Parkway and the Laaloa are not constructed. And the conclusion <br />there is that, you know, Alii Drive will remain at Level of Service D through the year 2019, I <br />think, and that 2020 I expect it to go to Level of Service E. So, again, you know, there’s a <br />timeframe as far as well beyond 2016, you know, that Alii Drive from a regional standpoint, <br />you know would still fall within acceptable levels of service. <br />IWASHITA: And 2020 is twelve years from now, right? <br />OKANEKU: Yes. <br />IWASHITA: And so you’re saying that Alii Drive may go to E in that projection, <br />right? <br />EXHIBIT B <br />23 <br /> <br />