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OKANEKU: At that point, yeah. <br />IWASHITA: And that assumes that Kahaluu-Keauhou Parkway is not built? <br />OKANEKU: That’s correct. <br />IWASHITA: The Laaloa Extension is not built? <br />OKANEKU: That’s correct. <br />IWASHITA: All of those, right? Okay. So to me that’s, you know, it’s not, this is <br />why we ask for this, for the concurrency, right? And we really don’t want Alii Drive to be <br />another Fort Weaver Road. We don’t want to get close to that, right? And so, okay, thank <br />you. The other thing is that all the Commissioners know I’m a community development plan <br />fanatic. So I’m going to ask you, does your, this is part of a draft, Volume I, Kona <br />Community Development Plan that we just got in our little folder today; and it’s not adopted, <br />it has transportation kind of elements to it. I’m assuming, and correct me if I’m wrong, that <br />your study does not in any way address any of the provisions of the proposed Kona <br />Community Development Plan? <br />OKANEKU: No, I have not had an opportunity to look at that as well. <br />IWASHITA: Okay. And, and, I, conjecture and ask if you’ll respond to my <br />conjecture that looking at and adopting what actually is, may, you know, hopefully becomes <br />law at some point in the Community Development Plan and its provisions for transportation <br />in the Plan, that that may very well affect the outcome of your TIAR? <br />OKANEKU: Um, I mean not having reviewed the Plan itself but, I mean, I would <br />suspect that the Development Plan would include a lot of the facilities that had been in the <br />pipeline for some time that is not, you know, bringing something brand new out that hasn’t <br />been looked at. <br />IWASHITA: All I’m saying is that the Plan, the intent of the Plan, right, includes <br />elements for providing transportation, different types of transit requirements or projections <br />and so depending on what ultimately ends up, you know, what it ultimately, those elements <br />ultimately – either too much or not enough coffee – depending on how the final provisions of <br />the transportation elements of the Plan end up and also depending on what the concentrations <br />of development and the nature of the types of development that are envisioned for this area of <br />this development that those factors, especially that last part cause in my mind two percent <br />really, that’s your assumption. I’m not, you know, if you look at where we are today and <br />where we’re projecting to be in the next 20 years I don’t think that where Maui was in 1985 <br />and I don’t think from ’85 till today you can say two percent is what the actual growth has <br />been on an annualized basis. We’re where Honolulu was in the mid seventies maybe; and to <br />go from the population growth of Honolulu in the mid-seventies till today we’re pushing a <br />million people, right, that’s not two percent. And to me those are the kind of considerations <br />EXHIBIT B <br />24 <br /> <br />