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WOODWARD: Well, I would just make one suggestion. You know, there’s going to be a <br />ballot initiative in November for a Constitutional Convention. And a lot of the problems that <br />you talk about are blocked by Statute right now, State Constitution. And I would encourage you <br />to tell the people that you know to vote for a Constitutional Convention. <br />GUMAPAC: Well, we’re opposed to Constitutional Convention because it also <br />threatens Article 12, Section 7. And we know that one of the reasons why people are pushing for <br />Constitutional Convention is to rewrite Article 12, Section 7, so that it takes away the rights of <br />the poe kanaka. <br />WATANABE: Okay, well -. <br />OGATA: I have one more question. <br />WATANABE: Yes, Shelly. <br />OGATA: Sorry, I have one more question. You know, what you just explained <br />about the water and all of that kind of stuff, I mean, and sustainability for, you know, the people <br />in Puna, I didn’t really get that out of this Plan; so I don’t know, I mean, I just -. <br />GUMAPAC: It’s one amendment that we can add to that Plan. We can always put that <br />in because Jon was nice enough to tell me, you know, it’s an empty box and all we’ve got to do <br />is fill it. We’ve got plenty groceries that we can put in. One of the groceries is water and the <br />other one is electric. It’s real simple. <br />WATANABE: Thank you. Any further questions? Well, seeing that -. <br />GUMAPAC: Mahalo. <br />WATANABE: Last chance, anyone else wish to testify? Seeing no one -. <br />SIRACUSA: I have a procedural question. <br />WATANABE: Yes. <br />SIRACUSA: Mr. Torigoe, we received a written testimony on the Puna Community <br />Development Plan from the Vacationland Hawaii Community Association, and attached to that <br />are two photos of porta-potties and the ocean coming in on the porta-potties; and when I read the <br />thing and I saw what lot that was happening on, it’s the Sullivan lot that we are going to be <br />th <br />reviewing on June 6. And I’m wondering what is the procedure -, is there a process where we <br />can get these photos admitted to evidence when we go and do -, because they are already <br />admitted into evidence here. We’ve got this in the paperwork but for the Puna Community <br />Development Plan. So can that information be transferred also to the Sullivan application? <br />Because it’s very pertinent. <br />EXHIBIT C <br />23 <br /> <br />