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of Hawai€i; and thats where it stopped. But we only got to the licensees. There were two or <br />three classifications for licensees, then there were two three classifications for Pahala, if you live <br />there now or if you lived there before 1950 or after, whatever it was; and then the next <br />classification was Ka€u. When we got to Ka€u, we actually had reserved all the lots. And I think <br />there were something like 70 people still on the back-up list. <br />SIRACUSA:So all the lots are now spoken for? <br />SAVIO:I dont want to say all because a couple may have cancelled; but, <br />technically -. <br />SIRACUSA:Okay. <br />SAVIO:Yes, 99 percent of those lots are actually specified to individual buyers, <br />potentialbuyers. <br />SIRACUSA:Okay.Imwondering,ImafarmerandsoIliveinanareawhereIget <br />200 inches of rain; and Im real lucky that way. And I understand you guys here in Ka€u have <br />had a drought for the last ten years. And I assume that your soils are just as porous as my soils <br />are and, you know, it comes down, it goes out very quickly. Im wondering how viable a 5-acre <br />lot is in terms of agricultural production if you have to pay for roads, and maintaining the bridges <br />over the gulches, if you have to -. Obviously, although you may have a 2,000 gallon water tank, <br />a 2,000 gallon water tank goes a lot farther on a 5-acre parcel than it goes on a 20-acre parcel. <br />But, also, if you dont have the water coming out of sky, youre going to have to truck that water <br />in. So when you start looking at all of those costs and how far away these farms are from any <br />major markets of produce, Im wondering how viable this actually would be for a 5-acre parcel <br />or if it would really take more than 5 acres in order to make it viable as for agricultural <br />production. <br />SAVIO:The reason the 5 acres came into play is most of the existing farmers own <br />5-acre licenses; and so they were trying to preserve what they already planted in that. In terms of <br />water, Im not a farmer so I apologize. I really dont know -. <br />SIRACUSA:You dont have to apologize for that. <br />SAVIO:But if you look at the map, to the left side of the map, that valley is full of <br />coffee farmers that are growing coffee right now and doing quite well. The far right side of the <br />map, theres another area where there are farmers growing coffee, and they seem to be doing all <br />right with the rainfall. At the bottom of the map, the Old Road A, there is one farmer who has <br />planted probably a 5-acre parcel there and, again, I believe hes using only rainfall, €cause there <br />is no County water per se. <br />I might also mention that the water tanks that were referring to were not intended for any use <br />other than the fact that the condominium statute requires a man-made improvement. So I could <br />have built a shed, I could have built a water tank, I could have built a mail box. So the 2,000- <br />gallon water tank was simply there to facilitate the State requirement in a condominium. We <br />could have put in bigger tanks, but then itd cost more money. The community decided theyd <br />rather put in a small tank because a lot of them are not going to build homes right away and dont <br />13 <br /> <br />