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DARROW: Just a quick comment is this is Condition 6 of Special Permit 1117, <br />which states that these improvements must be done prior to the establishment of the proposed <br />Retreat for the 16-room Hawaiian Permaculture center. So before they can even open up, they <br />have to have this gravel roadway in. So they actually have a time constraint regarding the <br />improvements of this road. <br />GRAHAM: Thank you, Jeff. Commissioner Siracusa? <br />SIRACUSA: Yes. These are prime agricultural lands, as Toni Withington <br />brought up. And we have been told here today that there is a strong agricultural component in <br />the curriculum – shall I say – or the activities planned for the young people, if this goes through. <br />And I also noticed on the map that there are like proposed fruit orchards and organic vegetable <br />gardens and things like that. Yet, when I look at the original recommendations by the Planning <br />Department, and when I look at the hearings officer’s decision and recommendation, I do not see <br />anything in either document that says that they shall be bound to do agricultural activities on the <br />property. And I would not like to consider anything on prime ag lands without an assurance in a <br />form of recommendations that some sorts of ag will actually be performed in the camp in the <br />retreat center. <br />GRAHAM: Commissioner Siracusa, the only thing I see that looks to address <br />that is Condition 3 of the Order, which says the construction of the retreat and the operation shall <br />be conducted in a manner that is substantially representative of plans and details as contained <br />within the application. So that doesn’t pin it down like you’d like, I think. <br />SIRACUSA: No, it doesn’t, it doesn’t. There is reference to it throughout the <br />application, but there is nothing in the recommendations that say, thou shalt, you know; thou <br />shalt plant or thou shalt raise some livestock or that sort of thing. And this is a big change to <br />change prime ag land out of ag. And the only reason that I believe that the Planning Director <br />was originally supporting it was – despite some other concerns – was the fact that there was <br />going to be a strong agricultural component. So I would like to see that carved in stone here. <br />YAMAMOTO: If I can? <br />GRAHAM: Mr. Yamamoto? <br />YAMAMOTO: I believe Finding of Fact No. 10 basically identifies the applicant is <br />proposing to incorporate agricultural activities, there will be fruit orchards, etc. And that was <br />testimony given during the contested case and part of the record. So it’s a transcript page 12, <br />transcript page 71, transcript at pages 74 and 75. <br />SIRACUSA: There’s a lot of references, that’s true. I just don’t see anything in <br />any of the recommendations that we have before us – either the Planning Director’s <br />recommendations or the hearings officer’s recommendations – and that’s where I’d like to see <br />something that pins it down. <br />WATANABE: Mr. Chair? <br />EXHIBIT B <br />16 <br /> <br />