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ALAMEDA:Commissioner Graham? <br />GRAHAM:Well, I mean, if the stabilizing is not going to be, then you don€t have to <br />do anything. But you could essentially guarantee a stabilization of the Trail up to the most <br />mauka elevation of your property. And if it€s State-owned, I guess, is it not permissible for you <br />to do that? <br />MOORE:It would be very difficult to recreate something that was never <br />documented. You know, at this point, as we extended further mauka of what€s existing, we€d <br />almost be guessing at the morphology of what was there before. You know, we don€t have <br />documentation at this point. The bi-faced core filled walls, parallel walls, continue all the way <br />up to Hualalai, the Trail was once 16 miles long and it reached up to the Heiau Ahu-a-Umi. It <br />hasn€t been thoroughly described in the entire length. <br />GRAHAM:I think Mr. Yuen certainly understands where I€m coming from. And so, <br />youknow,ratherthanhavingyoutrytoreplicatesomethingthatexistedhistoricallywhatI€m <br />really looking for most is that it be there for public use and in a usable fashion; and so anything <br />that might be an impediment to that, that you folks would take care of as far as your mauka <br />boundary. Is that workable, Chris, or is there some way you could do that? <br />YUEN:Let me just say I want to understand this correctly. Do the parallel walls <br />continue where it goes off your property? <br />MOORE:As far as I know, no. There has been some documentation several <br />thousand meters, a couple of miles, but I€m not familiar exactly with the site description from <br />those work -. <br />YUEN:What I mean is on this Diagram A-1 that we were looking at, it shows <br />parallel walls within your metes and bounds. And then it, they did not attempt to map this to the <br />property to the south, apparently, because it goes off onto what€s shown as a State easement on <br />the tax maps. <br />MOORE:Well, what€s shown on the map is basically what€s on the ground now. <br />YUEN:Okay, so the parallel walls, where it goes off the metes and bounds of the <br />property, the parallel walls stop? <br />MOORE:Correct. <br />YUEN:They€ve been destroyed already? <br />MOORE:Correct. <br />YUEN:Okay. So my suggestion, there€s nothing to stabilize past this 100-foot <br />stretch of parallel walls. So my suggestion would be simply that they, that we have a condition <br />that they stabilize that stretch of the Judd Trail, including the walls that line it. They would still <br />have to actually get consent of SHPD to do this work, in any event, both from an archeological <br />10EXHIBIT C <br /> <br />