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a reason to vote against this project. It just feels likeahard issue to handle here today since we <br />don€t have the metes and bounds and it€s -. <br />YUEN:Well,ifI could suggest, maybe Mr. Moore can help here. I believe there€s <br />a level of work that you€d call stabilization.‚ <br />MOORE:Yes. <br />YUEN:And would you explain that? <br />MOORE:That would be taking the deteriorated portions, retrieving stones that have <br />fallen off the wall, refacing the wall, reconstructing those portions of the wall so that they€re bi- <br />faced core filled, intact. You know, this northern wall is in good condition at this point, but we€d <br />recreate it to look and be the same size and shape as the northern wall. There€s a dilapidated <br />woodengatethatwouldneedtobereplacedorremoved.Thatwoodengatewasnotlikelypart <br />of the original structure. It was probably put in after the fact, early 1900€s, to control cattle or <br />something like that. You know, at one point they believed it was used as a chute to bring cattle <br />down to the coast. <br />YUEN:I think Mr. Lau has expressed his willingness to do stabilization. And this <br />is, as a kind of archeological work, what this does is it prevents further deterioration, at least for <br />a time. Like once the wall has started to collapse, then it€s very easy for stones to keep coming <br />out. The difficulty here, and then we have something that they do, that they can do now. The <br />difficulty with a full restoration is that Na Ala Hele program, there€s not a lot of point to doing <br />100 feet; and the Na Ala Hele program is apparently not ready to open up the Judd Trail. If this <br />were a big development where you would, like the Mauna Lani or something where you have an <br />entity there, that you can put a condition on that they can do it later, that€s a little easier. When <br />you have a small development that€s going to get sold off, you€ll have a homeowner€s <br />association; but it€s difficult to have a condition that they do something in the distant future that <br />may never arrive. But what I would suggest -- if, you know, in where you€re going with this as <br />far as what work could reasonably be done at this stage on the site -- would be to talk about <br />requiring stabilization of the portion that is within their metes, within the metes and bounds of <br />their property. <br />LAU:We would be amenable to that. <br />ALAMEDA:Commissioner Graham? <br />GRAHAM:You were speaking before on the metes and bounds going up to the, <br />essentially the mauka elevation of your property. Are you in a position where you could do the <br />stabilization to the mauka elevation boundary of your property? To me, that would feel more <br />appropriate than just what fits within the metes and bounds, as long as you€re legally capable of <br />doing that. <br />LAU:Well, as I stated at the previous meeting, the problem that we would have <br />is that we would need permission from somebody else. I mean, we don€t, we cannot do work on <br />property we don€t own. So, plus, in this area, according to Mr. Moore, the Trail has been <br />bulldozed prior to 1980, so there€s really nothing to stabilize it in that area. <br />9EXHIBIT C <br /> <br />