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WATANAB:I have a question. Seeing as it takes so long to have a survey actually <br />conducted, would a site visit help you in deciding? <br />ALAMEDA:Commissioner Iwashita? Commissioner Graham? Commissioner <br />Iwashita? <br />IWASHITA:Well, I suppose. But I think I would need someone with Mr. Tyler€s kind <br />of knowledge, you know, of the area. Cause, you know, my looking at a bunch of bushes and <br />piles of rocks, I don€t know how beneficial that would be. But, sure, I€m open to that if there€s <br />someone knowledgeable about the Judd Trail. <br />WATANABE:What about yourself, Mr. Graham? Cause it doesn€t appear that we have <br />the votes to get this through today; and, at the same time, I would remind you that, you know, we <br />also have to consider the fairness to the applicant. And, you know, with the current state of the <br />economyandthewayit€ssodifficulttogetasurveydone,maybeacondition,awell-worded <br />condition will be sufficient if a site visit would satisfy much of your concerns. <br />ALAMEDA:Commissioner Graham? <br />GRAHAM:I€m not so concerned about, you know, the situation on the ground. I€m <br />sure if the applicant just took some photos or something I would rest assured in their <br />representations. So a site visit is helpful and fine; and I personally am willing to go with that as <br />well as just -. To me we need a month€s time to go over what we have, and even some photos <br />from the applicant would be good enough for me, but a site visit would probably be better. And <br />I€m okay with that as opposed to waiting for an official metes and bounds. <br />ALAMEDA:Commissioner Galdones or Commissioner Salavea, you have anything to <br />add to this discussion? <br />SALAVEA:I€m inclined to postpone acting on this only because there seems to be a <br />discrepancy, like Commissioner Iwashita had described. And a site visit, my opinion a site visit <br />for me would not be as useful because I wouldn€t know what I was looking at. I would need to <br />depend upon community members, people who live in the area who have family ties, who have <br />the history, and they can relay that information relative to what the applicant was saying. And <br />that really for me is what this boils down to. It€s what the local community members who have <br />been born and raised in the area have and know relative to what is being represented in the <br />application. If it doesn€t correspond or jive, then I have an issue with it. <br />ALAMEDA:Okay. Sounds like, Commissioner Galdones? <br />GALDONES:Thank you, Mr. Chair. In fairness to the applicant, if the Commission is <br />going to decide to postpone or continue this hearing, I think we should continue it for the <br />purposes of getting information that would help us make a decision. The site visit thought, if it€s <br />not going to satisfy Commissioner Graham€s or Commissioner Iwashita€s concerns then perhaps <br />some other suggestions should be made so that they would get the information they€re going to <br />need to make a decision. <br />22EXHIBIT C <br /> <br />