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ALAMEDA:Follow-up? <br />IWASHITA:So there€s nothing, no limitations on grubbing, or, you know, how this <br />Important Ag land is actually developed and --? That€s what I€m trying to find out. <br />YUEN:The grubbing for the subdivision is all covered by other regulations. <br />Grubbing of greater than an acre, they need a, what we call an MPDES Permit, that€s -- If you <br />notice how nowadays when you see highway projects, you€ll often see these silt fences and <br />sandbags, much more common than used to be in the past. Those are a result of MPDES <br />Permits. That would be, those are the same requirements regardless of what the General Plan <br />designation is, cause it comes from a State and Federal erosion control permitting system. <br />ALAMEDA:Commissioner Graham? <br />GRAHAM:JustfollowingupCommissionerIwashita€sconcernthatthismayenable <br />more intensive developmentthere as anybody could -. It seems like one way perhaps could is <br />that if it€s designated Rural on the General Plan, then someone could go in and ask for an RA-1 <br />instead of an RA-2 in the sense of doubling the density; and it would be coherent, consistent with <br />the General Plan if we made this change. But if we don€t make this change then that more dense <br />zoning would be more in conflict with the General Plan as it stands now. Is that not correct? <br />YUEN:I think what you€re saying is correct, that --. It would still be, though, <br />something that would be dealt with at the Change of Zone level. It€s not something that would <br />just happen all by itself. <br />And the State Land Use designation itself is not affected by this. It€s already Urban, so <br />potentially, you know, you do have a potential for development under the State Land Use Urban <br />designation. <br />ALAMEDA:Other questions? Commissioner Iwashita? <br />IWASHITA:So that if such an application was made, basically as I see <br />recommendations done now by the Department if they check the Rural, if it is Rural zoning then <br />it would basically say this application is consistent with the zoning and, therefore, probably end <br />up with a recommendation for approval. Would it not? <br />YUEN:No, I wouldn€t say that because the rules specifically say that it does not <br />necessarily imply support for a further subdivision. That would, to say that it€s consistent does <br />not mean that you have to go ahead and rezone it. There are always other factors that come into <br />play. And that€s where something like, well, is it going to negatively affect Kealakekua Bay, is <br />it something that€s not a good density given the condition of Napo opo o Road? All those kinds <br />of things are to be looked at at zoning. So there are areas where, you know, where there may be <br />Urban Expansion in the General Plan that somebody might come in for a rezoning and the <br />Department would say, no, you can€t, we wouldn€t support that because the road is terrible; but <br />we might support it if you built a new road through there. And they might say, well, that€s not <br />going to pan out. And so there are other things that are going to come into play. <br />11 <br /> <br />