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cultural resources, and so on. There's the interchanged word historic resources, and that <br />word has a history. When the federal legislation was created to protect archaeological <br />and cultural sites, they created what was called a National Register of Historic Places. <br />And they made a distinction between your everyday archaeological or cultural resource <br />and something they called a historic property. For something to be a historic property, it <br />had to be a cultural resource, or a historical resource, or an archaeological resource that <br />was eligible to be put on the Register of, National Register of Historic Places. So when <br />Hawai`i created its legislation, it borrowed that term historic resources or historic <br />properties, but it didn't borrow the definition that came with it. So they use, in the regs <br />here, they use the term historic properties to mean any archaeological or cultural <br />resource, whereas its original definition meant an archaeological or cultural resource that <br />was so significant it could be listed on the National Register of Historic Places as a <br />specific term in capital letters. So all these terms get inter, used interchangeably here, <br />because of a series of, you know, historical events essentially. Did that clear it or not? <br />SPRINGER:With that in mind, I have a couple more questions. Acc <br />the Hawai`i County General Plan, the Kamoa Point complex at Hlualoa is both on the <br />Hawai`i Register and National Register. Is that accurate? <br />RECHTMAN:Yes, I believe that is accurate. If it's not on the Na <br />it was perhaps determined eligible for the National Register, wh <br />status. <br />SPRINGER:I see. Thank you for that. Can you tell me, or can yo <br />the map where the Kamoa Point complex is situated. <br />RECHTMAN:The entire complex? <br />SPRINGER:The entire complex. <br />RECHTMAN:Which would, in my mind, include Keolonhihi as well as the <br />Kaumalumalu site, is -. <br />GIFFIN:Excuse me for just one minute. We do, for the record, ne <br />specify exactly what map you are talking about. <br />RECHTMAN:Well, I'm looking at the Keolonhihi and Keakealaniwahine <br />Historical Complexes map. <br />GIFFIN:Mr. Torigoe. <br />RECHTMAN:Exhibit -. <br />TORIGOE:Go ahead. <br />RECHTMAN:Is there an exhibit number for it? <br />23 <br /> <br />