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was here testifying in his individual capacity and not his capacity as a councilperson. And so I would limit my cross-examination to the individual capacity. And I respect, I respect Mr. TylerÓs statement to that. GIFFIN:Right, right. VITOUSEK:ThatÓs a very appropriate, professional thing to do. GIFFIN:And his personal knowledge in regards to the site and the application, thatÓs perfect. VITOUSEK:ItÓs very relevant,yeah. TYLER:Yeah, I apologize for reading that. I think the objection was a reasonable one because after all, all of you can read. There are certain highlights here. GIFFIN:You donÓt need to read for us. TYLER:Yeah. I thank you Mr. Vitousek, because I know your time is valuable. I apologize to the Hearings Officers. GIFFIN:Thank you. Intervenor? M. ROY:Thank you. What I can appreciate is the passion that is placed as a living person to these words on the paper; and thatÓs what I appreciate here. Because we all can read, then why are we in this situation of complex difficulty with laws? But what carries things is passion for, and love of places and cases. So thank you. Mr. Tyler, would you say that this location is of importance to, to your family first, to the race to which you belong as a Hawaiian, just speaking in the Hawaiian, in Hawaiian heritage? Just that question. TYLER:Yes, it is important. IÓm told, but I havenÓt been able to confirm, that my interest in this area is because of, of my, my descendency, my lineal descendency. I havenÓt been able to confirm this, but IÓve had four or five people come and tell me, well, you know, the reason youÓre here speaking today is because of Kupuna O Ka W Kahiko have told you to come. And all I can tell you is my experience. I have, I will also tell you, I have never set foot in Keolonhihi. The only reason I went back to Keakealaniwahine Complex was I was with some people who, who are direct descendants and asked me to go with them. I never set foot on any heiau or anything. And I wonÓt go back there unless IÓm with someone who, who has a connection, because thatÓs the way I was taught. So, yeah, itÓs, IÓve come to know this place from early on as a youngster, and now as a makua to, who has had a chance to read the palapala and do his own research that this is a very, very, very, significant place. It may be the most significant place, and IÓm talking about both of these complexes in all of HawaiÒi Nei. 23