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and out of the kitchen, the trash compactor, the grease trap, all that stuff is back there; thatÓs not <br />where you want to have people running unfettered. So that was the comment. But as far as <br />where the people are coming from, I think the proposal is that they will be community people for <br />recreation from either the park or from along AliÒi Drive, visitors, everybody using be able to <br />walk, ideally, to walk along the shoreline. <br /> <br />BOWMAN: Okay, thank you. <br /> <br />WATANABE: Okay. Any further questions? No? Then it looks like we are down to the <br />one sticky point Î some number between eight and 30, and how do we manage it. <br /> <br />HU: I have a little comment, you know, I want to add -. <br /> <br />WATANABE: Please. <br /> <br />HU: As you know, that we are losing money, and itÓs very hard to run the <br />business in these days. And then I was really shocked to see that actually, you know, the City, <br />the County is asking for 30, you know, parking stalls, free parking stalls. We do have a parking <br />stall for the public Î of course, with a charge. Even if we are charging, we are still losing money. <br />And then we are running the business. We get a hard time running the business, and then you <br />guys are asking for the 30 free parking stalls. ItÓs very hard to, you know, take it. And secondly, <br />how are we going to control that? You know, they asked me, we s <br />brainstorm on how weÓre going to control it. If push comes to shove, weÓve got to give; then <br />how are we going to control it? Where are we going to draw the line? WhoÓs going to watch the <br />parking lot? WhoÓs actually going to park there? And then we have, you know, leased State <br />land right outside our hotel; we let the people park their canoes. Supposed be seasonal in the <br />contract, now we let them park in there throughout the whole season. We donÓt ask them to <br />remove it. It just stays there because it doesnÓt disturb us. We are trying to accommodate, you <br />know, publicÓs needs as much as we can. I just feel that, as the operator of the hotel, this doesnÓt <br />really make sense to me. <br /> <br />WATANABE: Yeah. <br /> <br />LEITHEAD TODD: Okay. I have a couple of questions because -. So you currently allow, <br />what, Kai Òpua, Keauhou to store canoes on hotel property? <br /> <br />HU: Yes. ItÓs right outside, which is our leased land from the State. <br /> <br />LEITHEAD TODD: Okay. Well, thatÓs public access, too, I guess, in some ways, you know. <br /> <br />WATANABE: Can we count that? <br /> <br />LEITHEAD TODD: Uh -. <br /> <br />WATANABE: They are now -. <br /> <br />EXHIBIT C <br />21 <br /> <br />