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I think that as the testifiers have indicated, whether you like it or not, I think, you know, <br />like the Ka u area is growing like the rest of theisland. Some of us have some <br />misgivings over the rate of growth. But, nonetheless, you know, this is, what he€s <br />proposing is a kind of use that does, not necessarily would be directly growth induced as <br />much as more growth accommodation. Because you have like many of those substandard <br />lots in that area or you have lots of already existing subdivided lots in the area, you know, <br />it€s easier for people to just buy a lot and then move into that area, whether it€s those <br />11,000 one-acre sized lots at Hawaiian Ocean View, or there€s thousands of other lots in <br />Discovery Harbor in the Green Sands Subdivision and the other areas. For newly or <br />unsubdivided properties it becomes increasingly difficult to get further subdivision <br />because of the water limitation and perhaps like zoning questions. <br />I think that a couple of the other testifiers noted, and particularly this gentleman and <br />Mr. Taylor, have indicated like, you know, they are in the business of providing material <br />and,youknow,tothecommunityand,ofcourse,nothavingthelatestsourceofmaterial <br />there provide some, you know, added cost to that. And it€s not so much the material cost <br />as much as it is transportation cost, transportation cost not only to the actual consumer, <br />but perhaps like the general public. Because they€re going to have to utilize roadways <br />that are public, you know, whether the material comes in from Hilo, or from the Kona <br />side, or Kawaihae, or the South Kohala area. <br />So I think there is clearly a demand. People talked about whether, you know, there are <br />alternatives. Perhaps there are alternatives. I think we must be mindful of the fact that <br />for the most part when we do have a quarry, it becomes very resource-based, you know, <br />resource-oriented. It€s not, like certain agricultural use you can have only certain areas <br />that would grow certain types of crop. Likewise with the quarry, you€re looking for <br />material. So it€s not like, you know, you can go up to, for example, like where he has to <br />farm, proposes his project and expect to have like a quarry operation over there. You <br />know, it€s pretty much like resource based. Because this area was formerly used as a <br />quarry, the material is already proven that there is that resource in that area. <br />This is not to say that there would not be any impacts, you know, to the surrounding area, <br />whether it€s environmental or otherwise. I think that because there is always the potential <br />for impacts, you do have appropriate regulations that the developer must comply with, or <br />the operator must comply with, prior to and also during the operations of the quarry. <br />There are, like the machines will have to be certified, you have to get like your air quality <br />permit. There€s also like noise regulations, dust control measures that would have to be <br />constantly monitored. Your staff€s proposed conditions also provide some added <br />mitigation relative to how you address the dust control measures. <br />The other points that were brought up, I think one of which was answered by the <br />Planning Director in terms of like the traffic, they actually read, projected, the Applicant <br />projects maybe like five, maybe at the most, like six or seven types of round trip of <br />activity, you know, depending on the volume of demand that they may have in that area. <br />18 <br /> <br />