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if its a tsunami that maybe has been generated in Halepe actions, yeah, it is still going to take
<br />some time for all of this to happen and to cross the evacuation route. So even though were
<br />talking about 12, I think, again, going back to the question, when is enough enough. And I think
<br />Im always going to be concerned with things like that, yeah.
<br />And I think for me as a principal of a school that is very tied to the culture of our community
<br />yeah, Im always concerned with things like that. And I think if you take a look at some of, you
<br />know, Mr. Arnott has always offered his kokua, Sharon at Pacific Aquaculture Center, thats
<br />where we do a lot of our educational ties. But we want to make sure that as things are
<br />developed, yeah, should they be developed, you know, we want to make sure that the integrity is
<br />not compromised in terms of who we are and where we come from as a community. Mahalo nui.
<br />WATANABE:Thank you. Commissioner Siracusa?
<br />SIRACUSA:Yes,itsmeagain.Irememberedmyquestionand,theoneIforgot,and
<br />possibly you know the answer. If not, I will ask the previous testifier to come up. The previous
<br />testifier mentioned a development moratorium along Kalanianaole, and you say that youre
<br />educating the children about the history and everything of the area. And so Im wondering if you
<br />know anything about that.
<br />VINCEINTYou know, when we were growing up, and I malaho my own parents for
<br />that, you know, because we are a fishing family. You know, Uncle Pat can testify to it because
<br />my grandmother helped to raise him as well. And I think when we take a look at some of the
<br />things, Im more concerned with those places such as Kokoiki, which is Strangas, which is one
<br />of the few places that, you know, at one time it was known as the Hukilau place; and its right in
<br />that area, and its connected to Onekahakaha. But I think when you take a look at places like
<br />those kinds of things, things that, you know, before you could pick limu kohu and no longer pick
<br />limu kohu, and for whatever reason, I think the development is part of the reason, if anything
<br />else. But I think as we kind of take a look at the development along the sea coast and the impact
<br />that it has on the environment, especially the ocean environment, you know -. I dont want to
<br />not tell the stories, yeah. I do not want to tell what has happened. And I think because of what
<br />the development is happening, I think one day those stories are not going to be told anymore.
<br />And I think thats my biggest concern.
<br />SIRACUSA:I think you misunderstood my question and so, yes, I will want to ask. I
<br />was talking about an official position that the County adopted as a moratorium, if you knew of
<br />that. And so may I direct my question to the previous testifier.
<br />GUMAPAC:I can address that question. After Hale Kahakai and Hale Moana were
<br />built, there was a big backlash with the County. Because what happened was that the Kanaka
<br />community all they saw was that these developers were looking to develop Keaukaha; and
<br />included in that development was supposed to be Richardsons Ocean Park; and right across
<br />Richardsons Ocean Park they were proposing a huge hotel development. And so because of this
<br />backlash there was a huge, huge protest coming from the kanaka community as well as from the
<br />non-kanaka community because of all of the desecration and the destruction of the ocean land.
<br />And so the County Council at that time said that they would put together a moratorium, place a
<br />moratorium, permanent moratorium, on any further development on any condominiums. And so
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