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parking, it would still be abused unless I have the control over it. So, that's the whole thing we are
<br /> trying to get away from.
<br /> VITOUSEK: Sure. And what I'm suggesting is that you guys create an actual plan, you know,
<br /> Mr. Fuke said the devil is in the details, and I think those details
<br /> FUJIMOTO: The plan, the plan would be just, be just like
<br /> VITOUSEK: Hold on, hold on.
<br /> FUJIMOTO: Okay.
<br /> VITOUSEK: I think those details are important. So, I think that being able to identify how you
<br /> are going to control the parking, who is going to have access, how are you going to be able to do
<br /> that, that's important for landowner, and I get that, I think you should have that. But it's also
<br /> important for the public access. So, I would want to have a condition in here saying that you
<br /> would prepare a public access and parking plan that would be approved by the Director.
<br /> KNOWLES: Can I jump inhere?
<br /> DEFRANCO: You can in just a minute. Are you finished, Mike?
<br /> VITOUSEK: Sure.
<br /> DEFRANCO: You are saying that I just, you know, wanted to make it clear, Mr. Fujimoto, we
<br /> are here to really listen to everything so that we can understand it. So, respectfully, you know, we
<br /> are trying to make this correct also for Kona, for you, for the County, for everybody. So, you have
<br /> to bear with us a little bit to ask questions that are not easy
<br /> FUJIMOTO: Oh, no, no problem. Sorry [inaudible crosstalk]
<br /> DEFRANCO: sometimes. But, you know, our concerns is we sit here, we listen to what people
<br /> say, and we want to believe everything that we hear. But, you know, without a plan in place,
<br /> without some kind of commitment like that, you,we could say, oh, yeah, let's take this out, and
<br /> you could do anything with that parking lot that you wanted if we took it out of SMA like this, you
<br /> know. I'm, I think it is a good thing to question that we have to be careful here, so just bear with
<br /> us as we ask these questions.
<br /> FUJIMOTO: Sure.
<br /> DEFRANCO: Okay. Commissioner Knowles.
<br /> KNOWLES: Yeah, thank you. I agree. I think one of the concerns, too, on the, along the takings
<br /> argument, which is, I understand that application,but I think, you know, part of this access
<br /> requirement with parking and other coastal zones, obviously, that's something we should do to
<br /> preserve the public access, but this idea around the takings, I have a question because it seems like
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