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wouldn't fault you on trying to regulate that. I just would want to know more about the plans that
<br /> will be put in place to regulate that. In other properties we usually see something like a public
<br /> access and parking plan that would indicate what the strategy would be that will maintain the
<br /> beneficial use of the coastal zone but also providing the control that the landowner needs. Is that
<br /> something that you guys would be willing to consider, preparing a parking plan?
<br /> FUKE: Well, as Mr. Fujimoto had indicated, like in terms of the ability to control, manage it, I
<br /> guess he is just like whatever is the prevailing, you know, like parking controls that's in this area,
<br /> you know, in this particular area. You know, I think in response to Commissioner Kanuha's
<br /> comment about whether it's going to be, you know, 60 minutes or 90 minutes, you know, gratis
<br /> for 20 minutes, I mean, these are the, you know, the so-called devil-in-the-detail kind of stuff that
<br /> he still has to kind of work out balance write-off against in terms of, you know, if he is going to
<br /> hire someone like Diamond or put in those lights, he has to figure out what the cost is, you know.
<br /> So, it's kind of like a work in progress in terms of like how he is going to be implementing it. I
<br /> think the critical thing is like whether this area is going to be set aside for public use, whether you
<br /> have to pay or not, for public use, and then he is already made that commitment; it's going to be
<br /> for public use. You know, it doesn't say like whether, you know,paying or not paying.
<br /> I think the other thing, you know, it goes back again to my earlier presentation about, you know,
<br /> the rational nexus. Twenty parking stalls, 10,000 square feet in perpetuity for public use without
<br /> any compensation, where is the equity in that?
<br /> VITOUSEK: Yeah, I mean I look at it as the entire area being within the SMA and being
<br /> developed. We are looking at cumulative impacts from individual developments that have created
<br /> so much development in an area where it has limited the public's ability to utilize the coastal zone
<br /> because there is limited parking. And so, for this particular one, which you had the foresight of
<br /> approving back in those days that created public parking to allow peopleI mean the stated
<br /> intention at the time may have been for economic reasons, which may exist—but it also has served
<br /> the purpose of allowing parking for residents to access the coastal zone, which, whether stated or
<br /> not, is a beneficial use of that area. And as you stated, in other areas where you have development
<br /> in coastal zones and public access, there is generally a public access plan that is followed.
<br /> FUJIMOTO: Could I say something?
<br /> VITOUSEK: Of course
<br /> FUJIMOTO: Okay
<br /> VITOUSEK: up to the Chair.
<br /> FUJIMOTO: the reason why we want more controls is, yeah, it was meant for that, but because
<br /> of things that have changed with the homeless, the drug addicts, and abandoned cars, the people
<br /> who are supposed to access don't have access. The condo next door takes up sometimes half of
<br /> the stalls, so the Kona Plaza uses half of my parking lot most of the time. So, the people that was
<br /> meant for doesn't even have the access to the parking. So, what you are trying to do and do free
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