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KERN: And that's where the blanket condition at the bottom comes into place,just like if you are <br /> dealing with a property that's outside of the SMA,they still have to comply with those rules even <br /> though there isn't an explicit condition within an attach, adjoining permit. <br /> VITOUSEK: Right. I just feel like, again, that having that as a condition, seeing that you have to <br /> comply with your landscaping plan, leaves little doubt, and that it gives whoever would acquire <br /> the knowledge that, okay, there is a landscaping plan that exists that I have to comply with. <br /> KERN: Like I said, I don't, I'm good either way on that one. <br /> VITOUSEK: Okay. <br /> DEFRANCO: So,just that, you know, I'd like, Mr. Fuke, the proportional obligations that you <br /> spoke of, and trying to understand like in the history of this, you know, I understand why it <br /> happened, and I do understand that he bought it as is, but I do look at this as he is trying to also <br /> look what's happened to the dynamics of Kailua-Kona and trying to make a parking place that's <br /> safe, that's clean and is trying to come to some kind of reasonable conclusion, and I think that the <br /> way that theyI'm not sure if there is a way to meet in the middle, I mean it's almost like if it's a <br /> public place, then he can't,people can't, he can't charge for it because it's public, right? <br /> FUJIMOTO: Right. <br /> DEFRANCO: So, he can't do anything about the cars being left there or anything being done <br /> there, because it's public, he can't do that. Now, he and the people before him and everything, <br /> this has been offered to Kona this whole time as free parking, right, and now it seems like, it <br /> makes sense to look at this again and to see if he gets what he is asking for is to take away this part <br /> of commitment as a public parking and privatize it. Is that right? Am I on the <br /> FUJIMOTO: That's correct. But still offer it to the public. <br /> DEFRANCO: Yeah, and still have public parking <br /> FUJIMOTO: Exactly. <br /> DEFRANCO: coming from a private place. And it's right, you know, you go to have lunch <br /> down there, and someone, some people charge twelve dollars for 30 minutes, you know, while you <br /> are, you know. So, it is all of us trying to digest really what you are asking because those are <br /> some of the few free parking spaces available down there. But we also have the vagrancy <br /> happening and the vandalism happening and the drug addictions happening, without being able to <br /> do something about it. I don't know, maybe the community has moved this to the place it is right <br /> now that we have to look at changing it to protect the community. <br /> FUJIMOTO: It's not safe over there. A lot of people are not, they don't want to walk down there. <br /> But I fixed the lights, the lights were broken before, so they feel a little bit safer. But the people in <br /> the condo right next to it, like you see <br /> 17 <br /> EXHIBIT A <br />