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ROLAND:Oh, you want to bring it over there? So it€s reverse to this and north <br />would be the other end in reality. But the highway frontage there is a little different. There€s <br />easements and other roadways in that area and the highway is occupying about 45 feet of the 80- <br />foot slough that goes through the area. So there€s a potential down the road as a community <br />actually developes and has a plan, that certain things could be developed and accommodated <br />according to whatever happens around this area. So, the Southcoast Bar property is probably <br />going to get developed very soon. So, on the board in the middle here is a roadway that I was <br />responsible for putting it in Kona that serviced a farm-labor housing and it was funded by the <br />government and 14% grade was the maximum grade that you could have. And so barely on this <br />property was it possible to put a road in connecting to the Belt Highway. But it couldn€t achieve <br />the 14% grade and service the farm below. So the Highway department was accommodating to <br />the point that they waived their rules of perpendicular access to the highway. And we were able <br />to build a road as it went down to extend it so that we could actually achieve a 14% grade. And <br />this was just barely possible. And as a consequence of that experience I realize that the State <br />HighwayDepartmentarealittlebitpragmaticinthefactthatthey€dliketodealwithreal <br />situations and they are sometimes accommodating. And above that is a map showing the <br />highway at that section so you can see that there is some latitude for highway development. And <br />then this big map is just to indicate that we€re really involved in the middle of an area. Very <br />large chunks of land that are owned by the State and the Federal government and large private <br />owners and the need for regional planning of that area is probably a prime opportunity for us all <br />to do something right because you have such great raw materials to work with in this region. <br />And we don€t have to plan the way we€re forced to in Kailua or Hilo because it€s already <br />established. And so we want to set an example that, fix it up a little higher than what is being <br />done. This is an expedient for economics. Very (inaudible) aspect is more social and <br />environmental than economic. So I would hope you€d see the virtue of the project and leave us <br />whatever latitude that€s within your powers to do so that we can actually jump through all the <br />hoops that are going to be necessary. Cause this is going to require dealing with a lot of agencies <br />that have quite strict requirements. And I think we can overcome some of them if we are <br />allowed to do that. <br />SPRINGER:Thank you. Are we at-? <br />ROLAND:And I€d just like to say this other map is- shows all the existing trees and it <br />shows the formations that are actually buffers in reality themselves. And the whole site was <br />designed to existing conditions with the hope of not having to disturb the land very much. It had <br />already been bulldozed in major areas on the first two properties that had been consolidated. The <br />other one is pretty much natural. And we are building in what is now going to be called you <br />know, green building and so we€re trying to do something that doesn€t come in where they <br />bulldoze everything and destroy all the trees. And we€ve gone through a lot of effort to put these <br />buildings together in ways that they create natural spaces and a park-like setting. So basically <br />that€s my take on it. <br />SPRINGER:Thank you for the orientation to your supplemental materials. <br />Commissioner Graham did I see a question there? <br />EXHIBIT B <br />12 <br /> <br />