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SPRINGER:Mrs. Golding. <br />GOLDING, C.:Yes. About the camping. One of the reasons that we wanted to make a <br />group type of camping, it would be groups that€s coming in, natural groups, YWCA, YMCA <br />th <br />children. I was raised on Oahu and in 4 grade we came to the Big Island as Hawaiiana and <br />raised money to stay in the Uncle Billy€s hotel or wherever and did hula for Uncle Billy€s. But, <br />there aren€t too many facilities where a group of kids or naturalists are going to come and stay <br />together in a inexpensive way and then experience the land instead of in a cement building. So <br />that was the purpose of doing a in-hostel and then an outside camping just to make it inexpensive <br />for groups to come learn and study. <br />SPRINGER:Thank you ma€am. Commissioner Watanabe? <br />WATANABE:This would be addressed to either one of you. But in terms of your <br />finances as well as the chronology what portion of this vision you anticipated to build out first, <br />where does the camping fall into that? Was that first or last or in the middle somewhere? <br />GOLDING, G.:Basically our, we were starting off with the store and our residence and the <br />camping is a thing that-. That area that we showed for the camping is all a€a and we tend to keep <br />it that way with little spaces for camping only with trails. So that would be a on going thing <br />duringtheprojectprobablyaswewouldgoon.Itwouldn€tbeathingthat-ourmaingoalisthe <br />main building to get started. <br />WATANABE:So so then- <br />GOLDING, C.:Be toward the end. <br />WATANABE:You possibly would be open to reapplying for it at a later date cause I <br />believe the Director€s recommendations would allow you to proceed with your initial plans <br />right? <br />GOLDING, G.:Well, we did go and our recommendations were to present it all at once to <br />see what we could get and that€s what we€re doing now. <br />SPRINGER:Thank you Mr. Golding. Other Commissioners any questions before we <br />continue on with Mr. Roland? Thank you. Mr. Roland. <br />ROLAND:Yes I think that maybe I€ll just go through it and see if some of the <br />comments that I have here-. On the third page when we get down to item B when you get to the <br />Director€s evaluation it says the desired use will have adverse effects surrounding properties-the <br />desired use would adversely affect surrounding properties. From our point of view in Ocean <br />View it€s hard to see that. There would be far more benefits than any adverse effects and we€re <br />hoping to enhance the property significantly. So there€s not, it€s a relatively undeveloped or <br />sparsely developed area and we would be doing our development in advance of other <br />development and possibly would have a positive influence in the area. But that€s open into <br />interpretation I believe. And then the noise impact aspects, which is further down. We have to <br />EXHIBIT B <br />9 <br /> <br />