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KENNEDY:Yeah, usually what happens in these cases is -. I wrote the Preservation Plan so I can tell you what’s in it, and there is a stabilization landscaping provision and maintenance. So the way I wrote the Plan is that the invasive species out, replanted with Hawaiian, Native Hawaiian plants. Those portions of the above-grade rock work that is inclusive within the preservation zone needs to be stabilized in some way. Somebody needs to get in there, dry masonry and make it so it’s not -. They’ve been cattle-damaged over the years and earthquake, that sort of stuff, and keawe tree roots wreck havoc with archaeological sites. In time, they will topple them. So it’s the landscaping provision that is enforced under HRS 6-E; and, usually, Chris would know better. But in my experience it’s the homeowner’s association that bears the brunt that they collectively have to adhere to the tenetsof the Preservation Plan as it’s written. And they’re obligated to maintain it, first to clear the land, the invasive landscape, stabilize what’s there, clean it up, keep it clean, keep it safe. And, like I say, because those documents go through review by Department of Land and Natural Resources, Historic Preservation Division, I would think that tenets and the covenants of all those documents fall under 6-E, so there are consequences. LAU:With respect to the requirements of the Preservation Plan, that’s something that the developer, initial developer will take care of. With respect to ongoing maintenance, that’s what gets turned over to the homeowners. SALAVEA:Thank you. That answered my question. Thank you. WATANABE:Mr. Iwashita? IWASHITA:Mr. Chang, going back to the Judd Trail, I just wanted to, ‘cause I’m not really familiar with the jurisdiction or the authority or the powers of Na Ala Hele. As to the Judd Trail, though, ideally, in the future, would Na Ala Hele basically be responsible for the entire 16 miles assuming that Na Ala Hele could acquire the authority over all that? Would Na Ala Hele take jurisdiction over the entire length of the Judd Trail? CHANG:Yeah, that’s one of the things that we could do. Yes, that is correct. IWASHITA:So that in the future if, I think it’s the feeling of the body pretty much that we would want to do what we can to have the Judd Trail become accessible to the public in the future. That would be done through Na Ala Hele, is that correct? CHANG:Yes, it could be done through us. But there’s some other issues that has to be looked at also, ‘cause we’re going to open this section up. We’re going to have to make sure that parking and, you know, that type of stuff is available, too. ‘Cause there’s no parking along Alii Drive and all that kind of stuff. So, you know, those kinds of issues are going to have to be dealt with in the future. EXHIBIT A 12