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IWASHITA:Okay. And then as far as Na Ala Hele, it’s like an administrative body. You’re not going to, Na Ala Hele, the trail would be owned by the State? CHANG:That is correct, owned by the State. IWASHITA:Thank you. My next question is for Mr. Lau. And I guess, you know, I’m looking at the Wes Thomas map again. LAU:Yes. IWASHITA:And, you know, the walls demonstrate to me that the lines on the map today might not be very accurate in terms of where the Judd Trail was actually built, you know, ‘cause I think mostly for convenience, somebody just drew a line on the map and they didn’t have a, without even regard to the actual location of where the trail was on the ground. And mauka of your property, Mr. Lau, you know that on this map it shows it basically as a straight line, yeah -? LAU:Correct. IWASHITA:Going mauka. You know, so, where we are now I guess my understanding is that you’re willing to convey title to the State, or whoever is appropriate? Actually, the way I look at it you would quitclaim any possible interest that you may be claiming against the Judd Trail. Because in my view, you know, the title to the Judd Trail can never be questioned. It was established as a government road. It has always been a government road since 1859 and the Kingdom of Hawai`i, the Republic of Hawai`i, the Territory of Hawai`i, the State of Hawai`i. Nobody ever conveyed title to the Judd Trail to anyone, right? So the title cannot really be questioned. The only question is where is the Judd Trail. So because your title apparently to your property includes an area that now it appears clearly is part of the Judd Trail, some legal conveyance is going to take place to clear it up. And looking at the map, I see that little dotted line. I guess it’s just north of the northern wall that Wes Thomas Associates has drawn in. That would be the area that you were indicating will be part of this conveyance or conveyancing? LAU:That is correct. IWASHITA:Okay. My question is, you know, mauka of your property, there is a 10-foot wide easement for no building along both sides of what’s designated as the Judd Trail, Lot A. Will your conveyancing also include a similar 10-foot easement I guess to the extent that it would impact your property along what would be the agreed location of the Judd Trail? LAU:Yes, we would be agreeable to that. EXHIBIT A 13