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IWASHITA:Let me have a follow-up ‘cause, you know, your suggestion about
<br />asking to have the wall rebuilt, I think, I would like to follow-up on that. But as a
<br />practical concern, you know, what you’re speaking of presents a difficulty as I see it
<br />since the wall is not there. And then how do you determine or who’s going to decide
<br />where the wall should be rebuilt? And, you know, what we have now mauka of this
<br />property is a straight line drawn, you know, basically between the adjoining privately-
<br />owned property. And so I don’t know how that was determined but it would seem that
<br />from that point any rebuilding of the wall would have to follow that straight line. What
<br />we’re talking about is, you know, the area from that Lot A down back to Ali`i Drive.
<br />And what process, I guess, would you suggest to be used to rebuild the wall?
<br />TYLER:Thank you for that question. I should have said something earlier
<br />about it. I told Mr. Lau that I would be glad to work with him and, you know, his people
<br />to try to find a way to make this pono; and I think he does, I think he wants to do it. And
<br />I also know that, you know, Mr. Judd, who’s the great, great-grandson I think of the
<br />Minister of Interior after whom this trail is named, is also interested in this, along with
<br />perhaps some of his other siblings, some of whom are mentioned in the impact statement.
<br />And I don’t regard this as an adversarial situation. Okay? Mr. Lau and
<br />Mr. Smith are not, are not my adversaries. I think these go to the contrary, actually.
<br />They didn’t destroy this, or at least I don’t think Mr. Lau did. I don’t know, I have no
<br />idea what Mr. Smith’s role was. But this has happened apparently before they took
<br />ownership of this property. It has been for sale many times; and they can’t be held
<br />responsible for something somebody else has done. But they are willing to mitigate this
<br />and try to bring this trail back to some sense of what it was. And I’ve told Mr. Lau, and
<br />he knows that I’m pretty good at my word to, that I’ll help him or some of the people that
<br />he has worked with, because that’s the objective that we all want. My objective is not to
<br />stop this project. Okay? My objective is to get on the record information which is
<br />critical for the perpetuation and future use of these valuable resources for present and
<br />future generations. That’s it. I have no bone to pick with Mr. Lau or anyone else
<br />involved with this because they’ve indicated a willingness and they’ve gone the extra
<br />mile. My goodness, they anticipated a metes and bounds.
<br />IWASHITA:That said, I take it that you are also convinced that the Commission
<br />as a body is pretty much on the same wave length as you are?
<br />TYLER:Well, I don’t know that. I haven’t heard from other
<br />Commissioners. But there have been some very good questioning; and I’m hopeful. I
<br />just want to be sure that there’s no grubbing and grading until the buffers are up,
<br />delineated and a mechanical, I’m talking about mechanical, and that it, you know, that
<br />there is a recorded covenant. So that if there’s an agreement with the State DLNR and
<br />Na Ala Hele Trails Program for a collaborative effort to maintain and restore and
<br />maintain this trail, that something be put down. Because, otherwise, you know, folks, it’s
<br />going to get lost in the record there. So, you know, that’s it. And, again, if I can assist in
<br />any way, that’s what I’m here to do today. I’m not here to oppose this project.
<br />WATANABE:Okay. Thank you. No other questions?
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